Just Died 1994 rodeo

[focus2win]

I was driving and all the A\t lights came on (power drive, winter drive, etc) in the center of the dash and the truck died but started right up. It did this about 3 times then today it died and won't start and none of the a/t lights come on when you turn on the key. I am in the middle of moving and can't find my book and i am hoping this has happend to someone else that can guide me to the problem.
thanks for your help
ps my speedo went out about 3 months ago

[Ramblin Fever]

Generally, when cold weather hits, that's when it hits the alternator harshly.

I'd check there first; test your alt under load, if it's putting out less then 14V, time for a replacement.

[focus2win]

will that cause it to not start even with a jump? and shouldn't it start even with out 14v but not run. I have found even if i get fuel by a bypass it still wond start.
also the A\c fan will not come on with key on

[trooperbc]

Originally Posted by Ramblin Fever

Generally, when cold weather hits, that's when it hits the alternator harshly.

I'd check there first; test your alt under load, if it's putting out less then 14V, time for a replacement.

add to this :
Generally, when cold weather hits, that's when it hits the battery harshly, too. it could be both, too.

check all connections in the charging system, including the battery terminals and grounds, first, however.

//bc

[focus2win]

i want to make sure and be clear
the engine cranks with no problem and i even jumped it to make sure i had good voltage.
I don't have fuel pump (not even the first 2 sec) but it still won't start if i by pass relay. I also lost the A/C fan and the 4 lights in the center of dash (power drive, trans light, and 2 others)
I appreciate all the help i can get cuz my book is packed and i need this rig to get to work i suck to ride a motorcycle in the winter in washington.

[trooperbc]

Originally Posted by focus2win

i want to make sure and be clear
the engine cranks with no problem and i even jumped it to make sure i had good voltage.
I don't have fuel pump (not even the first 2 sec) but it still won't start if i by pass relay. I also lost the A/C fan and the 4 lights in the center of dash (power drive, trans light, and 2 others)
I appreciate all the help i can get cuz my book is packed and i need this rig to get to work i suck to ride a motorcycle in the winter in washington.

boy it sure has a lot of symptoms that point to the alternator, but....
i'd be looking at the ground and at the battery terminals first.

oh, then it looks like the pump doesn't it. but first....
instead of the bypassing, just swap another samerelay from another slot into the fuel pump relay slot and see if it works.
no? then check the wiring at the fuel tank
repair as necessary
or
jumper direct volts back at the pump.

the computer instructs the pump to run only when the engine is turning over, either from the starter or from actually running, except for those first 2 seconds when you turn the key on. all through the relay.

try the swap, and then crawl under there and see what you can see. maybe you have wire shorting out back there that is affecting other stuff.

it's a bit baffling from here, but my guess is something is going to popup as the culprit as you go through the paces. good luck.

//bc

[focus2win]

this morning it wouln't start then i pulled all the fuses that didn't apply to acually runnig and it started right up. I put them one at a time and it died when i put the tail light fuse in. I put in the rest and it still started just fine and then i put the tail light fuse in and had no problem.
status now
all fuses in and no problems
but still no answer on problem?????????

[Ramblin Fever]

Do you have a trailer wiring harness attached?? If so, detach it and see what happens.

[trooperbc]

Originally Posted by focus2win

this morning it wouln't start then i pulled all the fuses that didn't apply to acually runnig and it started right up. I put them one at a time and it died when i put the tail light fuse in. I put in the rest and it still started just fine and then i put the tail light fuse in and had no problem.
status now
all fuses in and no problems
but still no answer on problem?????????

hey, nice diagnostic trick focus... . so still ok? at least you know which one to pull if it happens again.

let us know.

//bc

[focus2win]

it still starts but I havn't had the guts to drive it to work yet. I sucks to have to push a rodeo by yourself and walk a mile home. I will try this weekend when i have someone to follow. I will let you all know if it works. I hope it makes it so i can get this moving thing done

[RodeoRaymon]

well im having a problem similar like this that happened to my truck. i was on the freeway in 5th gear and all of a sudden my truck just dies and i had to coast off to the side of the freeway. i dont know whats wrong with it. i went through alot of water maybe thats the problem? but i let it dry out for a day and its still not starting. its turning over but just isnt starting up.

[Ramblin Fever]

Originally Posted by RodeoRaymon

i went through alot of water maybe thats the problem? but i let it dry out for a day and its still not starting.

Did you pull a spark plug to see if they got wet, or the air filter; also, you could have water in your gas tank too if you went through really deep water.

[RodeoRaymon]

would any of that make it not start? i looked at the spark plugs and they are good i looked at the air filter and its dry. maybe a module of some sort got wet or my timing chain is broken or what? i am getting gas so its not the fuel pump or filter. I AM NOT GETTING ANY SPARK.

[RodeoRaymon]

so after a month or so this is what i found out. it was my ignition pack on the very right side! so now it runs and its good to go

[focus2win]

I started this thread and i finallaly am responding with what fixed my truck. I hope someone can have some insight.
I pulled all the fuses (except the 3 or so that are needed to run) then the truck started just fine. So i started putting fuses in one at a time. When i got to the tail fuse it died like before and would not start. So i pulled the fuse again and it started. I continued with the rest and all was good. So i figured i had a issue with the tail circuit which makes no sense why it could keep it from running. So i put the tail fuse back in and the truck has been running ever since with no problems.
I love electrical problems