GTO is not american

[Autobanaurora]

Originally Posted by american_muscle

Ok, just a few things

A. The Ford Mustang IS a tire shredding muscle car. ALWAYS has been ALWAYS will be. Right now it is one of the best looking cars on the road due totaly to the retro look which is not whoring it in any way, simply showing people what a good car looks like. The record braking sales on both the '05 and the '06 would like to agree with me.

B. The new GTO looks NOTHING like ANY mustang EVER built, EVER.

C. The new GTO is an AMAZING car. I test drove one and WOW...its nice. Is the design a litle bland? Sure, but everything the car offers quickly makes up for it. Obviously GM discovered the error in their ways by slapping a GTO badge on an austrailian car seeing how they are redesigning it.

D. Anyone who has a problem with "retro" looks better get over it cause when it comes to muscle cars....thats the direction EVERYONE is going in. Undeniably, the 2008 Dodge Challenger will easily make the top 5 for best looking cars on the road anywhere. Muscle cars are ment to look like muscle cars. Does that mean that every muscle car should look like they did in the 60's\70's? No. You can update the look of a muscle car and still have it look like a muscle car....the ford mustang is the PERFECT example for this.

When the new GTO comes out....it will be better then this one. Because of the looks? Yes. The GTO now has everything you could want under the hood, and everything you could want in an interior(minus a GPS in dash dvd system that should be an option in any car now). When it comes out in '08, its gonna be right up there with the mustang. GM may be dumb the first time around....but if Ford and Dodge can get it right...so can GM.

Wow, what a list, how come it's slower?

[Autobanaurora]

Mustangs are for teenagers and slow websites like AF. Give me something that will haul a++. A mustang can't keep up with a Grand Prix much less a GTO Holden or not.

[Emery144]

Originally Posted by rzkz8k

Right now the LC3 is only scheduled for use in the STS/XLR V series. But that could change, remember not to far back when Northstars powered Pontiacs and Olds.

The LS7 is only scheduled for the Z06 at this time but we already know Bob Lutz mentioned at the Detroit auto show the LS7 might be used in the new Camaro.

The LC3 would cost less if it were built by machines, but it isn't.

Why would a new (rumored 2009 model) GTO use the LC3?

Do you have a source and exact quote of Lutz saying the LS7 might be used in the new Camaro.

I recently saw a new Porsche 911 Cabriolet with a window sticker that said 58 % of the parts on the car came from Germany.

[rzkz8k]

Originally Posted by Emery144

The LC3 would cost less if it were built by machines, but it isn't.

Why would a new (rumored 2009 model) GTO use the LC3?

Do you have a source and exact quote of Lutz saying the LS7 might be used in the new Camaro.

I recently saw a new Porsche 911 Cabriolet with a window sticker that said 58 % of the parts on the car came from Germany.

Oops, I mis-typed. Not LC3 but LS3. The LS3 replaces the LS2 just like the LS9 replaces the LS7. Now that it is 6 months later from the post you quoted, the new GTO and Camaro are scheduled for the LS3, the 2008 Z06 gets the LS9 and the CTS-V (2008) gets the LSA.

Lutz mentioned that possibilty in a podcast that was available from GM's blog at http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/.

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by rzkz8k

Oops, I mis-typed. Not LC3 but LS3. The LS3 replaces the LS2 just like the LS9 replaces the LS7. Now that it is 6 months later from the post you quoted, the new GTO and Camaro are scheduled for the LS3, the 2008 Z06 gets the LS9 and the CTS-V (2008) gets the LSA.

Lutz mentioned that possibilty in a podcast that was available from GM's blog at http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/.

Just FYI.

In case you did not know Emery144 was banned so I would not bother responding to him. AKA Jaguar D-Type and Houseman13 who were banned.

And I forgot Dan Carlson.

[rzkz8k]

Originally Posted by bnaylor

Just FYI.

In case you did not know Emery144 was banned so I would not bother responding to him. AKA Jaguar D-Type and Houseman13 who were banned.

And I forgot Dan Carlson.

Didn't know that, thanks.

[ChevyRidinLow]

Well Duh.. Theyre Also Ugly As S***

[Autobanaurora]

Here we go again. Maybe we should rename this forum bash the new GTO. American car makers are getting the blood sucked out of them by UAW anyway so who the hell cares?

[rzkz8k]

Define "what is an American car", please....

Is it where the car is designed.
Is it where the buck stops.
Is it where the final assembly point is.

Take the new GTO, designed here, assembled down under, engine built in Canada, tranny in Mexico, electronics from all over, and most body parts from Europe.

The American car is no more ...

[aussieidiot]

If you could choose another country to design and build a muscle car for the yanks, who do you want it to be? The Ukraine, France or Britain?



Whats the real problem with the Aussie Monaro? Is it Pontiac's choice of the vehicle thats not yank built or the car itself?

[vamc]

Originally Posted by ramairgto72

Sure not many cars are 100% anything, but it's kinda funny how american cars seem to suffer the most from that.

One can even say that the WW2 Jap 0 was American, since the Japs bought nearly all steel from america.

You hurting the Country, the worker and yourself when you buy stuff that Americans make. We don't even make TVs in America, and we made the TV!

Some people who live here dont care about it, the kinda people who buy the chevAussiGTO!

Speaking about hurting your country, the mitsubishi engine was in the plaines that bombed us.