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Old 03-24-2007, 12:42 PM
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96 3.0 windstar burning rich on 87 octane

My 96 3.0 Windstar with 95k is burning on the rich side using 87 octane fuel.
Checked by visual inspection of the tailpipe, black soot on the inside.
When I switched to shell 89 octane my exhaust tailpipe is clean, no sight of carbon to be found. Is this a sign of repair to be done. The vehicle has a new air, and gas filter and the pcv has been cleaned and the valve shakes internally. the vehicle is designed to run 87 octane. BTW vehicle had plugs changed at 90k with expensive ford plugs you know the double plats at $8.00 ea. Ouch! The orginal wires were checked and were still in spec's so I left them in. The windstar runs, and starts fine except it runs rich with 87 octane and getting around 22 mpg on average.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: 96 3.0 windstar burning rich on 87 octane

Do you get the same result with Shell 87...or is it a different brand?
Shell is one of the "Top Tier" fuels that has additional detergency and leaves less deposits.
This is with ALL grades of fuel....including 87 octane, although the premium grade has even more detergents.
You can read more about Top Tier gasoline at http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html

The normal issue with needing higher octane fuel is due to pinging, which is caused by carbon buildup inside the motor.
I would try a tank of fuel with a metal can of Berryman's B-12 Chemtool.
This is a strong solvent type of cleaner that will clean the fuel system.

Chevron Techron and Redline Complete Fuel System Cleaner are 2 detergent based brands that seem to be good.
Read the label as to the correct amount to add to your 20 gallon tank.
Last I looked, it took 2 bottles of the Techron to treat a 20 gallon tank.
You can then run a "maintenance dose" of the Redline, as indicated on the bottle.

I don't know the normal fuel economy with the 3.0L engine, but it would seem that you do not have something seriously wrong with 22mpg.
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