U like the 93' caviler?

[drunken monkey]

oh yes, a 600+bhp 6.0 V12 is really easy to modify.

[Jimster]

If you're comparing against Neon and Escort, then it's OK I spose.


But both those cars were Rubbish, just like the Cavalier.

2.4 litre engine that feels like a 1.6, the Auto trannies are rubbish, the reliability is terrible when pitted against the Japanese (In fact most Auto-electricians charge double labour rates to fix Toyota Cavaliers, because they're such a bitch).

They're also uncomfortable, ugly, badly built and have absolutely nothing on a Civic.

[Theturbo551]

Originally Posted by Jimster

If you're comparing against Neon and Escort, then it's OK I spose.


But both those cars were Rubbish, just like the Cavalier.

2.4 litre engine that feels like a 1.6, the Auto trannies are rubbish, the reliability is terrible when pitted against the Japanese (In fact most Auto-electricians charge double labour rates to fix Toyota Cavaliers, because they're such a bitch).

They're also uncomfortable, ugly, badly built and have absolutely nothing on a Civic.

You don't know what the heck ur talking about do u. Plus everything u said is personal opinion. And when a mechanic worked on a cavalier he didn't charge extra at all.

[Jimster]

Lol.

The engine is an absolute pile of shit given its' dispalcement- fact

The Automatic transmission is a pile of junk that either has ADHD or feels dead- fact (I should note at this point that the Toyota Cavaliers we got 2nd hand via Japan were all 2.4 autos)

It's unreliable and badly built- fact, as a matter of fact, if you ask any mechanic or auto-sparky here (Remembering that Hondas, Toyotas, Mazdas, BMWs and Nissans make up the majority of the cars that they do) about the Cavalier, you'll be greeted with colorful language, hence why most charge double rate on Cavaliers or just plain won't touch them. Plus, despite them being fairly common, parts, at least in NZ, cost a fortune. Or you could just try change the water pump on a Z24, then come back and talk about Cavaliers.

Uncomfortable- Admittedly I'm fairly tall, but I never had this problem in Fiats.

Ugly- Opinion, I suppose. But they're still but ugly and what I say goes, so there.

And yes I do know what I'm talking about.

[blakscorpion21]

toyota cavalier?

[beef_bourito]

chevrolet cavalier

[BlackGT2000]

They were sold in Japan as toyotas, they were manufactured here in usa and only had minor changes for Japan...tail lights, side mirrors, toyota emblems.

[beef_bourito]

i stand corrected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrol...oyota_Cavalier

[Scuz]

I drove a Cavalier once. A 96. The steering was disgustingly vague with no weight, no on center, and no feel for where the car was going when you tried to turn. I've never heard more shakes and rattles in anything anyone even tried to call a car. And I could deffidently feel the rear axle hoping over bumps and jolting the poor girl in the back.

But..the way I see it, modifying a four cylinder is strictly a class thing. I would modify one to compete with only other 4 cylinders because it does a better job at showing who has the better car. The Mustang is trash, I think. But it could still romp a four cylinder easily, making any comparison pointless.

Given that, the Cavalier still isn't a car worth modifying. You start driving one, and you think it has pep, when really, its just making noise at you. The power is low for its displacement, and you can't get anything out of it without sinking thousands of dollars into it.

I did see a 3800 swap into a Cavalier before though. Nose heavy as hell, but probably also fast.