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Old 11-17-2006, 06:38 PM   #1
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Transmission Help...Please!

Hello Guys,

I did the search and found the link for the Trans leak on the 2000 Rodeo. I guess i need to fix/replace the Accumluator Piston Cover/Gasket? I was leaking ATF and the shop charged me $120 to replace both of the large gaskets. Now he tells me that I need to take it to a Tranny Shop to get the O-Ring replaced.

Today I took it into AAMCO and they said I need to get my Transmission Resealed and It would cost $980!!! Does that price sound right to you guys?

I am also getting a loud vibration feeling when I accelerate between 45mph and 55mph. It happens when I give it gas, and only around that speed. They guy said it might be a problem in my rear diff and wants $200 to open and look at it.

What should I do about these two problems?? Please Help...Thanks
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:36 PM   #2
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What should I do about these two problems?? Please Help.
First, avoid AAMCO like the plague. They are the Maaco of transmission shops. They always tell you its something much more expensive then it is. Search here, planetisuzoo.com , and 4x4wire.com for posts about it. I'm sure there's a post with a how-to for replacing that. I dont have an automatic so never payed much attention. If you dont want to do it yourself, any shop should be able to do it easy enough, doesnt really need to be a transmission shop.

For the 2nd problem, after the leak is fixed make sure the fluid is full and fresh. If not then correcting that might take care of the problem.
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Re: Transmission Help...Please!

980 for the re seal is a rip off. the accumulator piston cover is routine at the dealer. free if you are the original owner and under 100,000 miles. it doesn't take horribly long either. i understand you need a specialty tool. others on here can tell you ball park price on what it should cost. run from aamco, i have heard to many bad stories about them. the dealer knows all about this problem, but if you have adverse reactions at the dealer try a reputable local tranny shop.
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forgot don't drive it if it is leaking alot, you will cook the tranny.
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Old 11-17-2006, 07:55 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input. I will stay away from AAMCO and check other shops and maybe the dealer. I just hate dealers for charging like $80 just to look at the leak. They tend to over charge too. It's leaking, but I just got the ATF filled up yesterday when they replaced the gaskets. So I should be able to last a couple weeks on the little drip.

What should I do about the Vibration Noise at 45 to 55 during acceleration? Is that part of the tranny problem or diff?
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Re: Transmission Help...Please!

Are you actually feeling a vibration or just hearing it??

Something new, could be tires needing rebalanced, shock going bad, something in the driveshaft, etc.

Was that tranny low on fluid the 1st time you took it in, before yesterday??
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That O-ring at the accumilator piston is a common transmission issue on the newer models I believe.

How many miles you got on your rig - it might be covered under warranty. Don't hold out too long before getting it fixed, I've heard they go from a minor drip to leaking 1-2 qts/day.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:36 PM   #8
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I have about 87K on the rodeo. I can feel the vibration under my seat. I took it to wheelworks today to get the tires rebalanced and i still hear it. Wasted $52 on that for no reason. The mechanic said the tranny was very low on fluid when i took it in last week. I have been driving with problems for a couple weeks. The reason I took it in to the shop in the first place was when I acclerate from a stop, the car begins to slip. LIke the trans is slipping. It only happen from a stop and once you got above 20mph, the problem went away. They fixed that problem by refilling the ATF. So it must have been pretty drained. I get afew drips on the floor when I park. so its not streaming out yet....

I really think that vibration is from the Driveshaft. The mechanic took it apart last week and lubed it. When I got it back from the shop, it started the vibration. I never had that problem before I took it in to the shop. I don't want to deal with them anymore because they are a bunch of morons...Its hard finding a good mechanic that is trustworthy...
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Could be a bad U-joint.
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$52 dollars to have your tires rebalanced!!! Holy shmokes - what do you have 60" tires or something - wow!!

Find a different tire shop, good-buddy; they'll suck you dry. I have 32" tires just the same as you, it don't take a special machine - just takes them doing it right.

Hate to say this about your tranny, but typically once the GM 4L30-E ever runs low on fluid, it's generally toasted. This particular transmission does NOT hold up when ran low or on dirty fluid. Slipping in 1st is very typical of low fluid level, I believe that's the gear with the highest pressure; and if you drove it for more then 2-3 miles being that low on fluid, it's probably in need of a rebuild.

Sorry; but that is one of the biggest culprits in this particular tranny's failure.

If you're no longer experiencing transmission slippage or issues, consider yourself VERY fortunate and make absolute certain to have that fluid changed again in 10-15k miles to refreshen/eliminate any remaining burnt fluid.

Sounds like the driveshaft is out of whack - find a diesel/over-the-road driveline truck shop. The one out in Vegas is who fixed my bad carrier-bearing, defective from factory.
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I was driving around for about 3 weeks with the Slipping in first gear....I guess that wasn't such a smart idea....Just never had the time to get it to the shop. With the new ATF filled up, it went away, but the mechanic said I need to replace the o-rings to stop the leaking...
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here are some links about that accumulator piston leak. they ought to help you. as to needing a complete resealing for ~$1000, yeah, right.


http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...&Number=914548

http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewtopic.php?t=8388

http://isuzufaq.ibctech.ca/Transleak...istonCover.pdf


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I was driving around for about 3 weeks with the Slipping in first gear....I guess that wasn't such a smart idea....Just never had the time to get it to the shop.
Well, sometimes our backs are just up against the wall, and when you're put between a rock and a hardplace for time, job, and vehicle availability - there isn't much you can do.

Just keep extra tad close maintenance on that tranny fluid, I would permanently change it more frequently to aid in it's health - it may or may not be more prone to weak spots now.

Keep us posted - and good luck.
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Here are the steps I would take.

1. take it to the dealer and hace them check the accumulator piston cover. If it is leaking have them fix it (15 minute job).
2. Have them flush the tranny to replace all the fluid (I know some are going to say don't do it).
3. your Vibe, could be caused by the drive shaft being out of balance OR something as simple as a heat shield that is loose and buzzs at the right rpm or MPH (I had this happen to me and all it took was a hose clamp to stop it; I still have another heat shield that buzzs in the morning and stops after the truck warms up).

Go to the dealer with knowledge (telling them where to look) or they too can be like AAMCO and will guess at the issue.
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Here are the steps I would take.

1. take it to the dealer and hace them check the accumulator piston cover. If it is leaking have them fix it (15 minute job).
2. Have them flush the tranny to replace all the fluid (I know some are going to say don't do it).
3. your Vibe, could be caused by the drive shaft being out of balance OR something as simple as a heat shield that is loose and buzzs at the right rpm or MPH (I had this happen to me and all it took was a hose clamp to stop it; I still have another heat shield that buzzs in the morning and stops after the truck warms up).

Go to the dealer with knowledge (telling them where to look) or they too can be like AAMCO and will guess at the issue.
i agree! some of these dealers do 10 of the accumulator piston covers a month. they know what they are doing! now i do not go to the dealer for everything but i do go when they have specific knowledge that others don't. it is important because your trans is on the walking the line of live or die. and if it dies a rebuild is in order. the problem with this is, it is not a very succsessful rebuilt unit. lots of people have problems with the rebuilt units. why? because not many of this 4l30e were produced. some tranny shops have never even rebuilt one. if it does need rebuilt do your home work on shops or get a reman from a reputable company like jasper. but hopefully after your seal is fixed and trans filled you will be A-ok. mike
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