M-coupe got own

[TEXSRT4]

Originally Posted by Musashi3000GT

Power to weight ratio isnt that important when its from a roll and you have forward momentum already built up.

Ive raced his GTI....well sort off, believe me its a monster.
He has about 315-320 hp and Im making 447 at the cranck and I still couldnt get ahead of him, he just kept walking me. Now if he can do that to a 447 hp'd car what makes it so hard to do it to a measly 315?

gearing and weight play a vital roll in racing from, well a roll. its all power to weight, gearing of course factoring into weight here. a gto is upwards of 4k if im not mistaken, which puts you at a HUGE disadvantage!!! remember 100lbs=roughly 1/10 in the 1/4...so 1000lbs would equal nearly a full second. which means you need significantly more power to overcome. weights being equalled, power being equalled, its in the tranny. the z4-m is avialiable wiht a couple different trannies so its impossiable to tell exactly which one, but i still find several cars somewhat tough if he actually decided to gun it.

on a side note, i would love to see one of those z4-m's. they are pretty cool

[DinanM3_S2]

Originally Posted by TEXSRT4

the z4-m is avialiable wiht a couple different trannies so its impossiable to tell exactly which one

Actually its only available in a manual, no SMG or automatic available. These are the ratios according to BMW USA-

Transmission
Standard transmission ratios - I/II:1 4.35/2.50

III/IV:1 1.67/1.23

V/VI/R:1 1.00/0.85/3.93

Final drive ratio 3.62 :1

[everlast0404]

Originally Posted by TEXSRT4

not to be a dick, but im wondering here.

you weight what, just shy of 3000lbs? with those mods, maybe making 300hp, which should put you in the low 13's, maybe high 12s on slicks.

and if im not mistaken the new z4mclass is a low 13 second car stock, with well over 300hp.

it really doesnt sound like you could have pulled him that hard

I weight more like 2800 lbs with driver
I was making 318 whp and 343 tq from 2800 rpm all the way to redline when I first got the turbo probably a little less now.

the z4 M-coupe weights 3,300 lbs and has 330 hp @ 7900 rpm at the crank and 269 lb- ft of torque @ 4900 rpm (oh by the way you are right on their 1/4 mile, is 13.4 @ 105 mph)

SO I still dont see why you doubt about me pulling on him.
Why would I post in this forum if it wasn't true...

Musashi I will like to go to the autox let me know....

[Musashi3000GT]

Its in Miramar bro. I gotta drive up there Sunday morning to race so If you still wanna make the 100 mile trip let me know.
I can PM you the details as soon as Gotian gives them to me.

[2000LS1Z28]

I don't doubt your kill. I believe the new 3.2L M3 engine is rated at 333hp. I don't see how a GTI that is making over 300whp wouldn't beat one, being lighter, and pumping out more horsepower. I know Danno beat a newer M3 from a roll in his stock GTO.

I dunno, I don't see M3's running all that fast. They definitely can corner really well, but they are not really a drag race machine.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by everlast0404

I weight more like 2800 lbs with driver
I was making 318 whp and 343 tq from 2800 rpm all the way to redline when I first got the turbo probably a little less now.

the z4 M-coupe weights 3,300 lbs and has 330 hp @ 7900 rpm at the crank and 269 lb- ft of torque @ 4900 rpm (oh by the way you are right on their 1/4 mile, is 13.4 @ 105 mph)

SO I still dont see why you doubt about me pulling on him.
Why would I post in this forum if it wasn't true...

Musashi I will like to go to the autox let me know....

dude no offense but your car does not weigh 2800 pounds with driver. The car itself weighs 50 pounds less than my jetta, so you car weighs about 2950 by itself, and you weigh more than I do and I weigh 115 so I'm gonna guess you are about 140-160 so that makes your car 3090 assuming you are at the lower spectrum and plus those heavier rims you have on probably weigh over 20 pounds each so your GTI weighs more than you think it does, but anyways good kill and I hope you get unbanned soon.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by Gotian

and I hope you get unbanned soon.

It was turned into a Perma ban... apparently he wasn't being nice to a moderator.

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by -The Stig-

It was turned into a Perma ban... apparently he wasn't being nice to a moderator.

oooooooooooo

[yeya04]

Originally Posted by Gotian

dude no offense but your car does not weigh 2800 pounds with driver. The car itself weighs 50 pounds less than my jetta, so you car weighs about 2950 by itself, and you weigh more than I do and I weigh 115 so I'm gonna guess you are about 140-160 so that makes your car 3090 assuming you are at the lower spectrum and plus those heavier rims you have on probably weigh over 20 pounds each so your GTI weighs more than you think it does, but anyways good kill and I hope you get unbanned soon.

this are the spec on a stock GTI
2002-2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T



The latest GTi, based on the Golf body, gains 30 hp with a new 180 hp turbo engine. Sold as Golf GTI in Europe. Comes with manual or Tiptronic transmission. A 6-speed manual 20th Anniversary edition is also available.



Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 1,781 cc
Valve : 20 valves, 5 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 5-spd automanual,
Fuel economy : city - 22-24 mpg
highway - 29-31 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Semi-independent torsion beam axle
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 180 hp @ 5500 rpm
Torque : 173 lb-ft @ 1950 rpm
Redline : 6700 rpm

Top speed : 140 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.5 sec. (manual), 7.2 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.3 sec @ 94.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 131 ft.
200 ft skidpad : 0.82 g

Curb Weight : 2932
Overall length : 164.9 in.
Wheelbase : 98.9 in.
Overall Width : 68.3 in.
Height : 56.7 in.

so is close to what he said
plus I know he has lighten the bumpers(20 lbs out of each bumper) change all the pullies, put a 7lb light weight flywheel (stock weight 27 lbs), change the motor mounts, (another 4 lbs save), and not to mention that all the front end of the car is from an r32 witch is 34lb lighter, also he has change the sway bars, and end links wich are light weight but stronger; and so on.... oh and each rim on the car weighted 1.5 lbs less than the stock ones; and the list keeps going.....
add it all up and he is preatty close...


so he is preatty close to what he said

[Gotian]

Originally Posted by yeya04

this are the spec on a stock GTI
2002-2005 Volkswagen GTI 1.8T



The latest GTi, based on the Golf body, gains 30 hp with a new 180 hp turbo engine. Sold as Golf GTI in Europe. Comes with manual or Tiptronic transmission. A 6-speed manual 20th Anniversary edition is also available.



Engine : 4 cylinder, turbocharged, DOHC, front engine FWD
Displacement : 1,781 cc
Valve : 20 valves, 5 valves per cylinder
Transmission : 5-spd manual, 5-spd automanual,
Fuel economy : city - 22-24 mpg
highway - 29-31 mpg

Suspension : F - Independent MacPherson strut
R - Semi-independent torsion beam axle
Brakes : F - Vented discs
R - Solid discs

Horsepower : 180 hp @ 5500 rpm
Torque : 173 lb-ft @ 1950 rpm
Redline : 6700 rpm

Top speed : 140 mph(estimated)
0-60 mph : 6.5 sec. (manual), 7.2 sec.(auto)
0-¼ mile : 15.3 sec @ 94.0 mph
60-0 braking distance : 131 ft.
200 ft skidpad : 0.82 g

Curb Weight : 2932
Overall length : 164.9 in.
Wheelbase : 98.9 in.
Overall Width : 68.3 in.
Height : 56.7 in.

so is close to what he said
plus I know he has lighten the bumpers(20 lbs out of each bumper) change all the pullies, put a 7lb light weight flywheel (stock weight 27 lbs), change the motor mounts, (another 4 lbs save), and not to mention that all the front end of the car is from an r32 witch is 34lb lighter, also he has change the sway bars, and end links wich are light weight but stronger; and so on.... oh and each rim on the car weighted 1.5 lbs less than the stock ones; and the list keeps going.....
add it all up and he is preatty close...


so he is preatty close to what he said

wow dude....pretending to be someone else to try to post here is a big no no, especially when you type the same way. Youre a nice guy I dont know why you had that argument with the mod but whatever. And also I'm not even going to correct you on some of those weight calculations and let this thread die. But just so you know, there isnt 20 pounds to be taken off from each bumper cause the bumpers dont even weigh 20 pounds, unless you shaved off alot of metal from your frame, which shouldnt be done.