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Old 08-12-2006, 09:23 PM
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Water in floor pans?

I just pulled the carpet, for cleaning (pretty easy), but am seein' copious water in driver's and passenger's floor pans up front (no rust, yet ). This has gotta' be a plugged AC condensor drain - right

Where's the drain pan, to unplug???
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Old 08-14-2006, 02:25 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

Could be a heater core? perhaps what year
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Old 08-14-2006, 06:15 PM
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Could be a heater core? perhaps what year
Is your coolant level okay?
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Old 08-16-2006, 06:10 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

Update...

I got drops of water from the condensor drain when I put my finger to the opening. Not plugged, right???

So I put the shop vac to the opening, just to see if it pulled any thing else - water/condensor jam/air, etc. Nothing. Not even air would pull through.

I then stuck an allen wrench into the opening, and could feel nothing in there - no plug; just some water.

Anybody know the design of this pan/box???

Any ideas?


bump...

Okay guys, I got my can opener out, and am gettin' ready to go in.

Does no one have a clue on this???

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Old 08-19-2006, 01:26 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

I just checked the interior filters, just to see what I could find before I went underneath the blower/duct access. The two interior filters are absolutely filled with leaves, acorns, etc., and compost/topsoil.

NOW, I am hopin' that this is why the shop vac would pull no air from the condensor drain hole, when the hole does NOT have an obstruction in it... (see above)

Cross your fingers (and yer little piggies)...


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I'm guessin' that if the interior (cabin air) filters are clogged, and air can't pull through THEM, then air will be pulled in from the condensor drain hole, which will in turn, stop water from draining out through the hole
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Old 08-19-2006, 01:43 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

are u sure the windsheild isnt leaking rain water in? i have seen that on a 02 venture
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Old 08-19-2006, 01:45 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

also it could have a leak at the cabin airfilter
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Old 08-19-2006, 01:50 PM
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also it could have a leak at the cabin airfilter
Positive.

I thought that (rain leak) as a possibility at first. But I dry out the water each morning, after 10 hours of driving each night, and the water returns.

No rain of late either.

It's from the evaporator, no doubt - just a question of why the juice ain't drainin' out the drain hole...
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Old 08-19-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

Okay... Here's what we've got.

I didn't go into the condensor drain access when I found the condition of the interior air filters.

I pulled them, cleaned and dried them. They will hold a lot of jam. While they were drying, I put the shop vac back on the condensor drain hole. Remember, I could feel no obstruction before, but the shop vac still wouldn't pull anything, including air. This time, with the filters out and drying, it pulled air. Not as much as I thought tho', but I didn't know what to expect, if anything at all.

Now the filters are back in, and air is moving through them (I smell the soap). It will take a while to see if the water can now drain out the drain hole.

This will answer the question from post #5 (EDIT), about pulling air IN, through the drain hole, with clogged interior air filters...
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Okay... Here's what we've got.

I didn't go into the condensor drain access when I found the condition of the interior air filters.

I pulled them, cleaned and dried them. They will hold a lot of jam. While they were drying, I put the shop vac back on the condensor drain hole. Remember, I could feel no obstruction before, but the shop vac still wouldn't pull anything, including air. This time, with the filters out and drying, it pulled air. Not as much as I thought tho', but I didn't know what to expect, if anything at all.

Now the filters are back in, and air is moving through them (I smell the soap). It will take a while to see if the water can now drain out the drain hole.

This will answer the question from post #5 (EDIT), about pulling air IN, through the drain hole, with clogged interior air filters...
We are awaiting the outcome so.
So let us know if that helps.
But a stopped up filter will not keep it from draining if the drain is open.
To clean the drain give it a good shot of compressed air and ge out of the road because you may get a wet bath.
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Old 08-19-2006, 05:46 PM
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We are awaiting the outcome so.
So let us know if that helps.
But a stopped up filter will not keep it from draining if the drain is open.
To clean the drain give it a good shot of compressed air and ge out of the road because you may get a wet bath.
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My drain was open.

It would NOT drain.

If you have a suggestion about what to look for, I welcome it.
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My drain was open.

It would NOT drain.

If you have a suggestion about what to look for, I welcome it.
As said in other post.
There is no way a blower can put a suction on the drain outlets or vents.
The drain is on the air out let side of evaporator and evaporator outlet air vents.
Put you finger over the drain vent and see what you feel.
If you do not feel air coming out your drain is stopped up.
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Re: Water in floor pans?

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There is no way a blower can put a suction on the drain outlets or vents.
I still think you're wrong on this.

For one, it's the only explanation for what I had going on. Read the steps and conditions carefully, that I went through...

For another, I read in another 'water sloshing' thread, that if the control is set on re-circ, as opposed to fresh, the problem of water went away. Or vice versa. This also would explain how suction might be applied, which could in turn, allow water to not go out. (I'll see if I can find that one again, to confirm).


If I can, I'll try to re-create the problem, and see for myself, with both settings...
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Old 08-19-2006, 10:25 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

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I still think you're wrong on this.

For one, it's the only explanation for what I had going on. Read the steps and conditions carefully, that I went through...

For another, I read in another 'water sloshing' thread, that if the control is set on re-circ, as opposed to fresh, the problem of water went away. Or vice versa. This also would explain how suction might be applied, which could in turn, allow water to not go out. (I'll see if I can find that one again, to confirm).


If I can, I'll try to re-create the problem, and see for myself, with both settings...
Sorry but.
Your theory does not hold water.
Go talk to the air cond people at .
http://www.autoacforum.com/
And see what they have to say about it.
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Old 08-20-2006, 03:36 PM
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Re: Water in floor pans?

We got water still.

The lower console is out. 20 sections, about 40 gigascrews.

I got a plastic panel loose below the condensor (gotta' pull another 20 pieces to get the panel completely out), and expected get some juice when the section opened. Nothing I could see the condensor, and everything looked dry. It was driven an hour before, and there's a lot of water down below.

Anybody got any other ideas...?
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