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Old 06-06-2006, 08:22 PM   #1
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Drum Brakes 101



Ok so when i had one of my tires plugged i found another problem. So i have never done drum brakes before so any help would be great. I bought 2 drums and a hardware kit today. I'm going to buy shoes tomorrow and hopefully get started.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

It's an easy job.

But rather than trying to write out a how to that might be confusing I decided to do a google search
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http://www.pepboys.com/learning_cent.../svc_rear.html

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The brakes are perhaps one of the most important components in the operation of your car. Keeping them properly maintained is key to safe driving. Rear drum brake inspection and maintenance is a procedure that you can do yourself with a minimal amount of difficulty.

The rear drum brakes work much differently than the front disc brakes. They consist of a backing plate that houses brake shoes. These, in turn, cause friction on the drum and stop the wheel when the brakes are depressed. A "soft" or unresponsive operation when depressing the pedal could mean that one of several components is worn out.

To complete the procedure, you will need the following items: socket wrench set, brake shoe caliper, depth gauge, brake pliers, brake spring tool, high-temperature grease, fresh brake fluid, a turkey baster, and soap and water. You may need to replace the following items: brake shoes, brake wheel cylinder, brake springs, and drum.

Procedure:

1. Buy, or have on hand, your car's service manual and refer to it frequently. Doing the job right the first time can save you time and money.

2. Jack up your car and remove the rear wheel and tire. Do not take apart the brake assemblies on both sides at the same time. You may need to use the other side as a reference when reassembling.

3. Remove the drum, which attaches directly to the wheel. Wash it in soap and water.

4. Inspect the brake linings on the outside of the backing plate to make sure they are not cracked or glazed over. Look at the hydraulic wheel cylinder mounted on the backing plate and make sure that it is not leaking hydraulic fluid. Also, make sure that all moving parts are free of rust.

5. Measure the drum to make sure that it is not larger than the manufacturer's maximum specifications. To do this, take your micrometer and measure the inside of the drum in several places. Compare this number with the maximum measurement printed on the side of the drum. If the diameter is less than the maximum specification, the drum can be machined by a service technician. If not, it must be replaced.

6. Measure the brake lining with your depth gauge. Make sure that it is above the minimum thickness requirement listed in your service manual. If it isn't, the lining must be replaced.

7. Look at the brake shoes to see if they are worn down. These should be replaced when the lining is below the manufacturer's specifications. If they need to be replaced, take your brake pliers and remove the brake shoe return springs. Then, take a brake spring tool and remove the hold-down springs and pins. The entire assembly should come off at this point. This will include the springs, the star wheel and both shoes. The rear shoe will still be attached to the parking brake cable. Use a screwdriver to remove this cable. Clean the star wheel, which keeps the brake shoes adjusted and re-lubricate it.

8. Check the wheel cylinder to make sure there are no hydraulic leaks. If there are, it needs to be replaced. This can be done by first loosening the brake line coming from the car, and then loosening the bolts on the back of the cylinder. This can be a somewhat awkward procedure, because the bolts are hard to access.

9. Put the new cylinder on. Always attach the brake fitting first, before the bolts, to avoid crossthreading. After it bolting into place, reattach the brake line.

If you are replacing the shoes and the wheel cylinder, replace the cylinder first. Make sure you put the primary shoe on the front of the backing plate. The primary shoe is normally shorter. Replace the back shoe first. You will need to re-attach the parking brake cable to the new shoe. You will then replace the hold-down springs and pins. It is a good idea to put new ones on at this point. Next, replace your cleaned and lubricated star-wheel. Then put in the primary shoe and replace its hold-down springs and pins. Finally, take your brake pliers and attach your brake springs. If you become confused about how the assembly should look, refer to the brake on the other side of your car or your service manual. Rock the brake shoes back and forth to make sure that they will stay in place.

10. Clean the grease from your hands off the shoes using sandpaper. Do not use a brake cleaner, as it contains a petroleum distillate, which tends to destroy the material in the shoes.

11. Replace the drum. It should fit easily onto the front of the backing plate. Then, take your brake spoon and turn the star wheel in the back until you can turn the wheel and feel light contact from the brake shoes.

12. Take a turkey baster and remove the old brake fluid from the master cylinder under the hood of the car. Then, pour the new fluid in. Next, bleed the old fluid out by attaching a bleeder hose to the bleeder nut located on the back of the brake assembly. Have someone pump up the brakes, and at the same time, open the bleeder nut and drain the old fluid and bubbles remaining in the line into your metal pan.

13. Replace the tire and wheel assembly and repeat the same procedure for the other side.

Doing brake inspection and maintenance is a relatively simple task. However, brakes are essential to driving safety. Exercise the proper care in doing these procedures and don't forget to refer to your vehicle's manual as much as possible. If you don't feel comfortable doing any of the procedures above, don't hesitate to seek the assistance of a trained professional.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

I CANT EVEN GET THE DRUM OFF, How do i retract the shoes? I have a manual but it doesnt help.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

If the drum moves back and forth then it needs the brake shoes to be backed off using the star wheel adjuster.

If it doesn't move you'll want to try a 3lb hammer, and be very carefull that you don't hit those studs. Hit the drum to break it free.

However if this doesn't work you'll need an oxy aceteleen tourch set. Heat the metel around the studs until it just turns red hot then take a coffee break. The expansion then contraction usually pops the drums right off.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

Thanks alot, i just hit it a couple of times and it came off. The story with my truck is an old guy owned it and put 40Kmi on it then the second owner bought it 3 years ago and put the other 80kmi on it. I think it had the original drums on it. The shoes looked ok but i replaced them anyway. In the papers he gave me there is no reciepts for rear brakes.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

drum brakes are rarely replaced. they last a long time. low mileage from the original owner is what destroyed those drums. low use caused fast rust buildup sending those drums to an early grave. thats amazing! the drum lip is completely gone.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

yea most of what was left of the lip broke off when i tried to take it off.
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

Then it might be easy to remove in pieces

Just kidding, although it can always be done as a worst case senerio
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make sure you get em adjusted right
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

So i get it all back together and test them and now the wheel cyclinders are leaking. Now i have to start all over again. YEA!!
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Re: Drum Brakes 101

Practice makes perfect lol

That's honestly never happened to me, but has happened to several people that I know.

I might be lucky, or it might just be that I usually replace the wheel cylinder at the same time (unless I know that it's 2 years or less old)
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