Augie Hiscano

[cszakolczai]

Sounds like an amazing gentleman, let him Rest In Peace and never be forgotten for who he was.
Chris

[mikemechanic]

Mike, it sounds like you and Augie had a great connection. Glad to see that you are continuing on with his tools and his memory. RIP Augie.

I was a little disappointed to see what transgressed earlier with karmamechanic and that it turned into a fight. I never knew who Augie was and have read a little about him in Scale Auto, but I guess with this being an international board that not all know who he was. I think karmamechanic's first post was ok but some others fueled the fire. It's too bad as karmamechanic looks like a great modeler and could have contributed here immensely.

[cinqster]

Originally Posted by The Sheene Machine

I'm sorry fella's - please understand that this kind of attitude is not representative of UK model builders.....

I'm a UK modeller who learned of Augie Hiscano's work via Scale Auto Enthusiast many years ago and I understand what an impact his work has made on the hobby. I never met the guy, only admired his skill in creating some of the finest model cars I have ever seen. The man was a genius.

It doesn't suprise me at all that KarmaMachainic didn't know who Augie was...I'm probably twice his age and have built models for 30 years - I've never seen SAE available in the UK anywhere - do you have any stockists addresses SheeneMachine?

I'm not defending KM's later posts (which of course I never read) but I've only known of Augie for about two years and I've spent quite a few years looking at automodelling sites on the Internet.

It was nice of you to remember him Mike, but to the few of you that responded in such a patronising fashion to KM's first apologetic post please remember that this is an international forum and life REALLY does exist outside of the USA.

This kind of 'know all' elitism is exactly what the hotrod community in the UK suffered from... a surefire thing to put youngsters off our hobby?

Thanks guys,

John S.

[D_LaMz]

:sniff:

[tonioseven]

Originally Posted by mikemechanic

Mike, it sounds like you and Augie had a great connection. Glad to see that you are continuing on with his tools and his memory. RIP Augie.

I was a little disappointed to see what transgressed earlier with karmamechanic and that it turned into a fight. I never knew who Augie was and have read a little about him in Scale Auto, but I guess with this being an international board that not all know who he was. I think karmamechanic's first post was ok but some others fueled the fire. It's too bad as karmamechanic looks like a great modeler and could have contributed here immensely.

I agree.
>EDIT< I agree with what mikemechanic posted.

[evo8owner]

I Met Him Once Many Years Ago At A Show, I Was Talking Tips & Tech With Augie As
He Showed Me How He Made The Parts On One Of His Early Circle Track Racers
That Car (100% Scratchbuilt) Was Awesome!, I'll Never Forget The Hour I Spent With The Master,Augie Hiscano
A Super Nice Guy,An Amazing Talent,A Hero In The Model Car World

[MPWR]

Originally Posted by cinqster

I'm not defending KM's later posts (which of course I never read) but I've only known of Augie for about two years and I've spent quite a few years looking at automodelling sites on the Internet.

It was nice of you to remember him Mike, but to the few of you that responded in such a patronising fashion to KM's first apologetic post please remember that this is an international forum and life REALLY does exist outside of the USA.

This kind of 'know all' elitism is exactly what the hotrod community in the UK suffered from... a surefire thing to put youngsters off our hobby?

Thanks guys,

John S.

Well, I guess i'll take this one. I did have the dubious honour of being the first to respond to him.

KM's initial post

Originally Posted by KarmaMechanic

Am I the only person here, who doesn't know who this guy is! Who was he? What are his accomplishments? Never heard of him in my life, at all! Sorry!

could have been taken a number of ways. It's the nature of online forums that posts are often somewhat ambiguous in their true tone. However, the intent of GTmike400's initial post was quite clear- he wished to remember and pay respect to a passed individual. If KM hadn't heard of this individual, that's fine- but he could well have at least been mindful of courtesy, both for GTmike400's expression of sentiment, and indeed for the deceased himself.

I took KM's initial post as disrespectful and flippant. I admit, I responded in kind- however I did so in a way that I hoped (perhaps unrealistically) would not escalate the trend. What I hoped to express was "if you were not familiar with the gentleman in question, please butt out and allow those that were to remember him". I felt, and still feel that those sentiments were at the time appropriate. Perhaps I was not alone in my sentiments.

I think that the true tone of KM's comments was amply illustrated by his further string of posts. Whatever benefit of doubt I might have considered was quickly erased by the continuation and escalation of this tone.

KM might well be a talented and accomplished builder- however, it does take a bit more than that to be a valuable and contributing member in a community such as this. In my experience, very, very few members, new or old, are given to outbursts such as he displayed. Those given to such outbursts are rarely net contributors in such communities.

I find the inferences of nationalism here both offensive and disturbing. I believe that GTmike400's initial post was not because Mister Hiscano was an American car modeler, but because he was a car modeler- a great one, and a gentleman to boot. I very much like to think that had a prominent figure in the UK car modeling scene passed away, that the Aussies, Kiwis, Yanks, Poles, Italians, and everyone else would show due respect for that individual. Individuals are rarely able to contribute evenly on an international level in a hobby such as ours (or indeed elsewhere in life). Such a person will almost always be most recognised by his local community, wherever that happens to be. Yes, Mister Hiscano was an American (I believe). Yes, most of the people lucky enough to meet him were probably Americans, and were likely in America when they met him. However, if you believe his passing to be primarily an American loss, then you truly misunderstand and dishonour the international nature of this hobby.

The direction this thread has taken has been unfortunate- particullarly in light of the honour and respectful intentions in which it was started. I regret my part in moving it away from this intended path (and recognise my continuation of that in this post). Perhaps now what needed to be said has been said, and those who wish to remember Augie can be allowed to do so without these interuptions.

[RallyRaider]

Lets try not to get off track again here guys.

I'm sure a lot of us had some sympathy for KarmaMechanic's initial point of view. The fact he chose to go beyond that (antagonised or not) is another issue entirely.

[The Sheene Machine]

Originally Posted by cinqster

It doesn't suprise me at all that KarmaMachainic didn't know who Augie was...I'm probably twice his age and have built models for 30 years - I've never seen SAE available in the UK anywhere - do you have any stockists addresses SheeneMachine?

I'm not defending KM's later posts (which of course I never read) but I've only known of Augie for about two years and I've spent quite a few years looking at automodelling sites on the Internet.

It was nice of you to remember him Mike, but to the few of you that responded in such a patronising fashion to KM's first apologetic post please remember that this is an international forum and life REALLY does exist outside of the USA.

This kind of 'know all' elitism is exactly what the hotrod community in the UK suffered from... a surefire thing to put youngsters off our hobby?

Thanks guys,

John S.

John,
Try setting up a subscription direct with SAE....oddly an independent newsagent near me in Southampton has stocked it for years.. you could also try Carkits International; 01702 615397..Bob Dobbins will set you up with regular copies.
Here's the link;
http://www2.scaleautomag.com/

[cinqster]

MPWR,

You're right...in hindsight I should have chosen my words more carefully.
The point I was trying to make is that if you are based in America there's a far higher chance you would've known of Augie from the likes of SAE and the show circuit etc.

I apologise if anyone took offence,

John S.

[cinqster]

Originally Posted by The Sheene Machine

John,
Try setting up a subscription direct with SAE....oddly an independent newsagent near me in Southampton has stocked it for years.. you could also try Carkits International; 01702 615397..Bob Dobbins will set you up with regular copies.
Here's the link;
http://www2.scaleautomag.com/

Many thanks for the info Paul,

John S.