who think we can make 1000AWHP?

[mehrshadvr4]

the main bering means nothing.when some one made 700 hp on NA engine with stock TT piston so the 4bolt engine can be even stronger..you can't make 900whp on 2jz stock internals.some people said 800 crank hp some people sais 900.but i have seen 700rwhp supra that had blown engine.3000gts engine should be as strong as 2jzs,remember 3000gt's engine was strong ,even before toyota think to make 2jz engine. becouse of tc there is not much people tried to make big power with 3000gts engines.we loss 31% at the wheels.like 230whp 230x 31%+230= 300 crank HP.there is some one that made 636awhp.i calculat that became ~840 crank HP.

[ChrisGood]

1000 might be around a corner, the TC that Ray is using with design help from Sean will help alot. It pre loads tension on the TC so it doesnt snap when all that power goes to it. Ray has already said that he has added alot since he last Dynoed at what was it 833. I would expect him to be up around 900+, then toss the NOS onto that and you can bet on 1k not being to far from what he dyno's. I just want to see him hit the 9 second 1/4 mile.... that is one bad car.

[talskinyguy]

Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4

the main bering means nothing.when some one made 700 hp on NA engine with stock TT piston so the 4bolt engine can be even stronger..you can't make 900whp on 2jz stock internals.some people said 800 crank hp some people sais 900.but i have seen 700rwhp supra that had blown engine.3000gts engine should be as strong as 2jzs,remember 3000gt's engine was strong ,even before toyota think to make 2jz engine. becouse of tc there is not much people tried to make big power with 3000gts engines.we loss 31% at the wheels.like 230whp 230x 31%+230= 300 crank HP.there is some one that made 636awhp.i calculat that became ~840 crank HP.

If you think the number of main bearings means nothing that you are an idiot. The more suface area the bearings have the better off you are. Inline engines are inhearently stonger because of this.

The highest stock block 2JZ-GTE I have heard of is 980RWHP. You have seen a 700RWHP supra blow up........good for you, I have seen stock 3000GT blow up. Its all in the tuning, hell I can make a 3000GT have less hp than stock and still blow it up, ditto goes for the Supra.

Drivetrain loss is not a strait percentage, you can go on believing it is, but it is not. The amount of drivetrain loss goes up with power, but the percentage goes down the more power you make.

Im not bashing the 3000GT / 6g72 here, Im only stating that the Supra / 2JZ-GTE is a better engine for making power.

[ChrisGood]

In the end our cars are still the sexiest.

[Morphius289]

Hah, I think the Supra is sexy too. I wonder what the 3000GT and the Supra would look like combined...

Maybe something like...this?

[mehrshadvr4]

Originally Posted by talskinyguy

If you think the number of main bearings means nothing that you are an idiot. The more suface area the bearings have the better off you are. Inline engines are inhearently stonger because of this.





no it's depend on the crank shaft.the stronger the crank shaf the better you are.
The highest stock block 2JZ-GTE I have heard of is 980RWHP.
if you can make 980RWHP from stock supras internals,i will sell my car and buy a supra,but i am not going to sell it becouse that didn't happend with stock internal



.You have seen a 700RWHP supra blow up........good for you, I have seen stock 3000GT blow up.





my 3000gt is runing very bad now no tuning.my car is still runing with out peoblem for 8 mounth.
Drivetrain loss is not a strait percentage, you can go on believing it is, but it is not. The amount of drivetrain loss goes up with power, but the percentage goes down the more power you make.






it wont goes down ,becouse the more power you make the more it take to turn the wheels.if the percentage will go down so if you make big power it should reach 0% drive train loss.




Im not bashing the 3000GT / 6g72 here, Im only stating that the Supra / 2JZ-GTE is a better engine for making power.

is 2jz-gte on all turbo supras?

[Igovert500]

Mehrshad, you are picking the wrong person to argue with. Talskinyguy is 100% right on all counts.

And not once did he say the drivetrain loss will continue to go down all the way to 0%, he just said the more power you make, the percentage goes down, because it isn't a straight percentage across the board.

I have no idea where in the hell you got 31% drivetrain loss. But if you are claiming 31% then you didn't even do the proper math calculations to figure out drivetrain loss.

You said 230whp = 230x31% + 230= 300 crank HP

The correct way to calculate 31% drivetrain loss (using 300 crank) would be:

300 x .31 = 93hp lost
300-93 = 207AWHP

You go find me one healthy stock vr4 dynoing 207 to the wheels.

So not only is 31% wrong, but you didn't even do the math right.

Now a stock 3000gt may lose 25%, I gaurentee you an 800AWHP 3000gt isn't losing 267hp through the drivetrain. 25% has and will always be an estimation based on stock numbers, but it DOES NOT stay flat throughout all hp gains.

[talskinyguy]

Originally Posted by mehrshadvr4

is 2jz-gte on all turbo supras?

The 2jz-gte is the engine that came in the Turbo MKIV(4th / last gen) Supra. The non-turbo cars had the 2jz-ge

[Hotshot8792]

supras have that gay clock


so . . . . uhmm . . . can a vr-4 take a supra?




i can't believe auggie started that over on 3si

[Igovert500]

Originally Posted by Hotshot8792

so . . . . uhmm . . . can a vr-4 take a supra?

[aorozco2]

Originally Posted by Morphius289

do you have any other pictures of that car, maybe from the front.

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by aorozco2

do you have any other pictures of that car, maybe from the front.

Ummm thats a PS.

[mehrshadvr4]

it dose make sence that the % will go dow.the question how much?.ok let say you will loss 23% at the wheels at 840 crank HP.840x23=646 whp some one made that much HP on 100% stock internal, and his car still runing good.so our car is good for 800+ hp if the car is healthy.

[GTOjamez]

1000 awhp hell yeah if i was rich i would do it but dont know how long it would last, wouldnt care really as long as it lasted long enough to record the dyno results. lol. im pretty sure everyone else does the same thing.