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SO, the change went without too many problems, the biggest and most frusterating problem was when I was putting everything back together, I decided to tighten the supercharger breather (the nut on the end of the snout) and I stripped it, so now I dearly dearly hope I did not strip the inside of the snout, I dearly hope that... SO, now I need to find another breather nut, it seemed I wouldnt be able to find anything like that at a GM dealer, where would you suggest? home depot? zzperformance? I'd like to have it tomorrow as I'm too scared to drive the car without it in. ALSO there might be one small problem, quite frusterating too if it is! When I was getting the seal in, I bent one side while trying to push it in, then I took it out and looked at it, and along the outsides still seemed perfectly round, so I tried denting it back to no avail, so, hopefully I dont have to do the same job again soon! ANYWAYS, would you know where I can get a new breather? and also, if the inside is stripped, do I have to take out the whole snout too? thanks
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SO, the change went without too many problems, the biggest and most frusterating problem was when I was putting everything back together, I decided to tighten the supercharger breather (the nut on the end of the snout) and I stripped it, so now I dearly dearly hope I did not strip the inside of the snout, I dearly hope that... SO, now I need to find another breather nut, it seemed I wouldnt be able to find anything like that at a GM dealer, where would you suggest? home depot? zzperformance? I'd like to have it tomorrow as I'm too scared to drive the car without it in. ALSO there might be one small problem, quite frusterating too if it is! When I was getting the seal in, I bent one side while trying to push it in, then I took it out and looked at it, and along the outsides still seemed perfectly round, so I tried denting it back to no avail, so, hopefully I dont have to do the same job again soon! ANYWAYS, would you know where I can get a new breather? and also, if the inside is stripped, do I have to take out the whole snout too? thanks
Bummer! You might need a complete new snout. Try ZZP, EBay, the boneyard or Ed Morad. Ed lists on EBay and may have just the part you need.



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Re: mystery oil, need help identifying

So I'm very frusterated, it seems that no one in the nation stocks a supercharger breather nut, and now that I call ZZP, they say if I put in a barbed retainer, that'd be fine, does anybody have any experience with this? ZZP has been very helpful so far, but I would like to get in the breather nut.... Also thanks for your guys's help. ALSO would you suppose it'd be fine if I drove the car without the breather nut to the shop? And I assumed the bolt played some role in keeping the supercharger pulley from falling off,,,, or is it just such a tight fit on the snout that it's just not coming off anyways? thanks again.
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SO, now I put on that plastic barbed retainer and drove it. BUT there is a loud squeeking (possibly scratching) sound coming from the fanbelt/pulley neighborhood. SO, I'm not sure if it's that I didnt get the pulley on far enough and the belt is scraping, I dont know if it has to do with all of the supercharger oil that dripped out onto the fan belt, if it has to do with the antiseize stuff I put on the shaft or what... It's really really loud and I dont know what's going on.... any help would be apreciated... tomorrow I guess I'll try and put the pulley on more and see if that does anything. Thanks.
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SO, now I put on that plastic barbed retainer and drove it. BUT there is a loud squeeking (possibly scratching) sound coming from the fanbelt/pulley neighborhood. SO, I'm not sure if it's that I didnt get the pulley on far enough and the belt is scraping, I dont know if it has to do with all of the supercharger oil that dripped out onto the fan belt, if it has to do with the antiseize stuff I put on the shaft or what... It's really really loud and I dont know what's going on.... any help would be apreciated... tomorrow I guess I'll try and put the pulley on more and see if that does anything. Thanks.
Before any further damage is done, you might remove the supercharger belt and check the SC tensioner and the idler pullley to make sure it is not the source of the noise. Also, spin the SC pulley by hand to check for noise. Also with SC belt off start engine to make sure it is not any part of the main serpentine drive belt components. You should be able to run without a SC belt hooked up for a short period of time.

It is important to follow the instructions provided by ZZP that came with your pulley puller. Especially the part on re-installing the pulley and making sure it is straight and torqued down properly on the shaft until it hits the backing plate or triangle (whatever the ZZP puller has).



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Re: mystery oil, need help identifying

SO, I took off the belt, all of the pulleys seemed fine, and the supercharger would spin with no sound, I'd even strap it to the belt and pull the belt just to get it spinning faster, and nothing sounded wronge... I started it up and reved it a bit without the supercharger going and everything sounded fine, then I put the belt back on and the sqeeking started again,,,, so I'm really thinking that the pulley just isnt on enough, by looking at it, it seems to be out about 1/4 or 1/8 of an inch further out than the other pulleys. While putting the pulley back on we didnt use the backing plate as there werent any instructions for that, just the top plate... SO we just twisted the wrenches pretty hard so much so we were afraid that anymore could hurt the supercharger, so we stopped, but it looks like we should get the tools out and try and snug it on just a bit more... I cannot wait for this project to be over! Wait, do you think that some of the antisieze cream got into the oil somehow and is causing that noise? hope not.
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SO, I took off the belt, all of the pulleys seemed fine, and the supercharger would spin with no sound, I'd even strap it to the belt and pull the belt just to get it spinning faster, and nothing sounded wronge... I started it up and reved it a bit without the supercharger going and everything sounded fine, then I put the belt back on and the sqeeking started again,,,, so I'm really thinking that the pulley just isnt on enough, by looking at it, it seems to be out about 1/4 or 1/8 of an inch further out than the other pulleys. While putting the pulley back on we didnt use the backing plate as there werent any instructions for that, just the top plate... SO we just twisted the wrenches pretty hard so much so we were afraid that anymore could hurt the supercharger, so we stopped, but it looks like we should get the tools out and try and snug it on just a bit more... I cannot wait for this project to be over! Wait, do you think that some of the antisieze cream got into the oil somehow and is causing that noise? hope not.
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Sounds good and you've got it under control. Thats why I never liked the ZZP pulley puller and went with Pulley Boys instead. The PB has a better design to let you know the pulley is on the shaft properly.

I don't believe the anti-seize compound is causing the noise. Try tightening down the pulley more and also you might have a damaged belt from the SC oil and may need a new one. Is it a GoodYear Gatorback?



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Re: mystery oil, need help identifying

SO it looks like (for now) the job's done! The pulley just needed to be put on further. I didnt know that about the pulleyboys one. I was more attracted to the ZZP one because it went around the entire pulley and not just part, but now I certainly see what you mean; even the second time we got the pulley pretty far on, but once the huge bolt was taken out we still had about an 1/8 an inch left to go, oh well. The sound is all gone, and it runs perfect now... well there was a bit of a sound when I first started driving, but it could have been anything (including my imagination), now it sounds and drives just fine. That is interesting you say that about the fan belt, it was the alternator belt that got the most of the oil, but when I took off the s/c belt this morning it was kinda stiff, and I'm not use to it feeling that way, but it's still working and still seems completly normal now.... but yes it is a Gatorback, I'm pretty pleased with it, and thankfully everything is done! Now I can get started on a Random Tech catalytic converter and u-bend delete! phew!
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SO it looks like (for now) the job's done! The pulley just needed to be put on further. I didnt know that about the pulleyboys one. I was more attracted to the ZZP one because it went around the entire pulley and not just part, but now I certainly see what you mean; even the second time we got the pulley pretty far on, but once the huge bolt was taken out we still had about an 1/8 an inch left to go, oh well. The sound is all gone, and it runs perfect now... well there was a bit of a sound when I first started driving, but it could have been anything (including my imagination), now it sounds and drives just fine. That is interesting you say that about the fan belt, it was the alternator belt that got the most of the oil, but when I took off the s/c belt this morning it was kinda stiff, and I'm not use to it feeling that way, but it's still working and still seems completly normal now.... but yes it is a Gatorback, I'm pretty pleased with it, and thankfully everything is done! Now I can get started on a Random Tech catalytic converter and u-bend delete! phew!
Good man and good job. I knew you'd figure it out. Good luck and off to the mods.



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