Ram Air or Cold Air Intake?

[dxasaurus]

Originally Posted by casper_sears

I was debating on putting a short ram air intake on my 2000 Civic EX or going with the cold air intake. Any suggestions? Prices? Which is better?

Unless you put it on a high performance car that comes with a really restricted intake, it won't make any difference besides sound and perhaps throttle response. On a d series(or any 4 cylinder, ftm), the intake piping was big enough for the small engine, a higher end filter MIGHT help gas mileage, but for the most part, a fancy intake will just effect sound.

[dxasaurus]

Yeah, here's a cheap video clip I made(listen to the exhaust rattle against the bumper).

It's way louder, but it's still a slow pos. I'd def. go with the short ram, though if you really want one...

http://media.putfile.com/IMGP0062

[kicker1_solo]

beware of the stock civic dx

[dxasaurus]

Originally Posted by kicker1_solo

beware of the stock civic dx

I know lol that's what I was thinking when I was taking the video.
If it's not a V8, you shouldn't bother buying anything for your car 'performance' wise unless it's a turbo or is something for your turbo.

The minute my rates get dropped I'm going to simon Chevy and picking up a hand me down 4th gen.

But the intake was all in good fun. It cost me pocket change and I have a good time tinkering with little moters. Hondas are great cars though. They can withstand the beatings of ricers such as myself and don't allow me to reach dangerous speeds.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by kicker1_solo

there is no need to worry about sucking up water with a cai. The only way you can suck up water is if the filter gets completely submerged in water, and how often do you drive through 2 feet of water. Splashing water on the filter won't do anything. There was actually a big study on this, but I don't remember where the link to it is.

Studies don't always have the details, real life experiences do. Yes you CAN suck up water by going into a puddle, WITHOUT having the filter submerged. My friend almost killed his engine going through a puddle on a rainy day, and it wasn't 2 feet deep by any means. Go search on h-t and here and see all the people who have hydrolocked their engines. I guarentee the majority of them weren't driving through even a ½ft of water.

You're not talking about the AEM bypass test are you? Because that was a bullshit test.

[kicker1_solo]

Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

You're not talking about the AEM bypass test are you? Because that was a bullshit test.

no I'm not. I've ran a CAI for almost three years, soaked the filter in puddles, sprayed it at the car wash with the car running, and I've even done my own test by submerging a good 2-3" of the filter into a bucket of water with a motor running and it would not suck up the water, it just sucked the air from the top half of the filter. There was a study somewhere a while back that they did the same thing many many times with different cars, different intakes, different situations and still could not suck up water. I'm also very big into off-roading, and all of my friends run open filters on the outside of their rigs and while driving through water, the filter gets a ton of water splashed on it, never once has this cause hydolock on any of our trucks. I'm not saying that it's 100% impossible to suck up water, but the chances are very slim from my personal experience.

[kicker1_solo]

Originally Posted by dxasaurus

I know lol that's what I was thinking when I was taking the video.
If it's not a V8, you shouldn't bother buying anything for your car 'performance' wise unless it's a turbo or is something for your turbo.

The minute my rates get dropped I'm going to simon Chevy and picking up a hand me down 4th gen.

But the intake was all in good fun. It cost me pocket change and I have a good time tinkering with little moters. Hondas are great cars though. They can withstand the beatings of ricers such as myself and don't allow me to reach dangerous speeds.

lol, yeah. I had an all-motor integra and god that thing was fast. So don't think that the only way to make a 4cyl fast is by turbo. Sure my car couldn't keep up with a built V8, but it could still hold it's own. Yeah, an intake is generally the first mod for everyone, I know it was mine on all of my cars. There's nothing more fun than when you're just getting into cars and you get yourself an intake, it makes you feel like your car is the shit lol.

[dxasaurus]

Originally Posted by kicker1_solo

lol, yeah. I had an all-motor integra and god that thing was fast. So don't think that the only way to make a 4cyl fast is by turbo. Sure my car couldn't keep up with a built V8, but it could still hold it's own. Yeah, an intake is generally the first mod for everyone, I know it was mine on all of my cars. There's nothing more fun than when you're just getting into cars and you get yourself an intake, it makes you feel like your car is the shit lol.

Most important part was...

Originally Posted by kicker1_solo

Sure my car couldn't keep up with a built V8

Just because my car is slow doesn't mean I haven't been in fast cars. Yeah, you can probably make an all motor pretty fast, I believe yours could pull plenty of bolt on V8's, but I don't see the point in doing all of that major engine work to pull a half car on a bolt on Z. You see, I do hang around Honda-Tech. Some pretty fast N/A Honda's. I just couldn't justify spending more for a 4 cylinder stroker kit than a V8.

And when I took the video, I didn't do it w/ the intentions of you thinking my car is fast. At 14, I built a damn junkyard 250cc dirtbike that could own my car. Call me crazy, but I swear, with my scrawny white butt on there, I think it was in the 14's if I ever dared take it up there(no suspension, bald tires, rotten frame said no). To be honest, I think I wouldn't have had a problem pulling the lastest Civic Si from a dig in the thing. My car is just reliable transportation. I have no future plans of building a honda(or an N/A one, at least), while I still respect them.

[casper_sears]

I went ahead and got the SRI. I looked at the price difference and the performance difference and there wasn't really much on either. Thanks for all the info.

[kicker1_solo]

Originally Posted by dxasaurus

Just because my car is slow doesn't mean I haven't been in fast cars. Yeah, you can probably make an all motor pretty fast, I believe yours could pull plenty of bolt on V8's, but I don't see the point in doing all of that major engine work to pull a half car on a bolt on Z. You see, I do hang around Honda-Tech. Some pretty fast N/A Honda's. I just couldn't justify spending more for a 4 cylinder stroker kit than a V8.

And when I took the video, I didn't do it w/ the intentions of you thinking my car is fast. At 14, I built a damn junkyard 250cc dirtbike that could own my car. Call me crazy, but I swear, with my scrawny white butt on there, I think it was in the 14's if I ever dared take it up there(no suspension, bald tires, rotten frame said no). To be honest, I think I wouldn't have had a problem pulling the lastest Civic Si from a dig in the thing. My car is just reliable transportation. I have no future plans of building a honda(or an N/A one, at least), while I still respect them.

Most people that own imports don't buy them for speed. The majority of it is for looks. I completely agree with you, if wanting to build a fast car the best and cheapest way to go is with american muscle. I currently have a truck that I'm building, it's a 76 chevy luv and I'm gonna drop a chevy SB in there. After it's been tuned I hope to hit low 12s in it. The whole build is gonna cost me less than $3,000. The motor I had in my integra cost me $3,000, ($3k was just for the motor, then you have the price of everything else) which landed me in 14s. I know what you mean about your old bike, I myself have a suzuki PE250 and it will waste almost any car on the street. Any bike could take most cars on the road, especially hondas lol.