What’s wrong with Ford and the new Mustang?

[eillob]

The power to weight ration in the Fox 5.0 in very impressive. One ride in one and I was immediately hooked.

[01L2Cobra]

Well let just look at a few very important things between the 05 GT, 01 Cobra, 93 Cobra.

Weight distribution
05 GT: 54/46
01 Cobra: 55/45
93 Cobra: 63/47

Power to weight ratio
01 Cobra: 0.093294460641399
05 GT: 0.087591240875912
93 Cobra: 0.071556350626118

Now the SC Cobra numbers
Weight distribution
03 Cobra: 56/43
GT500: 57/43

Power to weight ratio
GT500: 0.11688311688312
03 Cobra: 0.10641200545703

If you look at the numbers the power to weight ratio has seen a good increase however it has been at the cost of weight distribution which is not a good thing at all.

[AltecZX2]

well dont foreget that the 03/4 and 93 cobras werer really under rated. ive seen 93's dyno stock closer to 250crank hp and 03/4 closer to 425crank

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

despite how pathetic the power may have been, i really like the mustang II

You disapoint me Stang00.
I'll go stick my head in the snow now.

[TheStang00]

Originally Posted by giddyup50

You disapoint me Stang00.
I'll go stick my head in the snow now.

i think the cobra looks sweet. comon its just SLIGHTLY underpowered...

[giddyup50]

Originally Posted by TheStang00

i think the cobra looks sweet. comon its just SLIGHTLY underpowered...

SLIGHTLY UNDERPOWERED??!!

I can KIND OF understand you liking the way they look (even though they are a Pinto) especially the King Cobra because it had all the decals and ground effects. They make me think of the Trans Am from that time. But come on man, slightly underpowered??!! Didn't the 302 in them have about 150hp?? It may have been even less than that with since it was only a 2bbl carb. and with all the emmissions crap they had back then. Oh well, I guess it's all preferance. And they did keep the Mustang going.

I'M STILL STICKING MY HEAD IN THE SNOW. Especially after that comment......"slightly underpowered".....hmm. Oh well, Merry Christmas.

[TheStang00]

slightly underpowered... i was useing a bit of sarcasm there, i know its very underpowered. just jokin with ya

[01L2Cobra]

Originally Posted by AltecZX2

well dont foreget that the 03/4 and 93 cobras werer really under rated. ive seen 93's dyno stock closer to 250crank hp and 03/4 closer to 425crank

True but then agian I could have added info about the 1985.5 SVO. The 1985.5 was the most powerfull of the SVOs not the 86 like most people think. During its day the SVO was a good compeditor.

[AltecZX2]

true. I have a 86 in my yard im restoring i was gonna get a 85.5 but it was TO beat.

[Jaguar D-Type]

Two things not wrong now.

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December 23, 2005

Ford to save U.S.$650 million annually with new union health care agreement

Dearborn, Michigan - Ford Motor Company announced that its tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers (UAW) to reduce the Company's health care costs has been ratified by the Ford-UAW membership.

The agreement, which is currently pending court approval, calls primarily for modifications to the Company's hourly retiree health care plan, while continuing to allow Ford to provide a competitive benefits package for hourly employees and retirees.

Much like the recent General Motors health care agreement with the UAW, Ford's agreement includes contributions to an independent Defined Contribution Voluntary Employee Benefit Association (VEBA) that will be used to subsidize the cost of retiree benefits.

Overall, the agreement is expected to provide an average annual net corporate savings of about U.S.$650 million on a pre-tax basis, including reduced health care expenses and the impact of the VEBA contributions. Cash savings are projected to be about U.S.$200 million per year. Ford estimates the agreement will result in an overall reduction in its retiree health care (OPEB) liability of about U.S.$5 billion.