3G Eclipse?...

[rodbls]

Originally Posted by eclipsed4utoo

pig = fat and overweight

the 3G eclipse is very heavy.

And understeers like a mother. Its bad in the rain, and TERRIBLE for a FWD car in the snow. Im sure it would be better with some snow tires instead of all season. I have never got stuck, but wheel spin is terrible even in the slightest frozen anything. Although if you are skilled at all, making 90* turns in residential areas is easier with the ebrake, just enough to get you pointed in the right direction and still have enough speed to not get stuck. If I have found one major problem with the car is that it has terrible understeer in wet/snowy weather.

[Sleepr awd]

yes indeed terrible understeer, and i have troubles driving anything more than lightly in the rain on right and left turns...sometimes dry is even tricky, e-brake is useful in getting pointed the right direction just don't use it too long at once u'll get some bad flat spots

[rodbls]

I am in no way an ebrake drifter...in fact, i dont really use my ebrake at all in dry weather. The only time i use it is in the snow, just like you said, to get pointed in the right direction. Another thing to be careful of is to not use it for too long because you will spin out very easy in the snow and probably be worse off than if you just pushed all the way through the turn. Good luck with anything you decide to do with the car, its got a good stock powerplant, and like mnay people have said it can be made much better.

[eclipsed4utoo]

ive never had a problem with the understeer in the rain.

what kind of tires do you guys have? i have yokohoma h4's and they are pretty sticky.

[cficare68]

I had problems in the rain. But my tires where pretty bald. Got new tires put on yesterday so I'll have to see how it goes

[JLad10687]

I found a 2001 GT 5-Speed with 42,287 miles for $11,450. What do you think?

[eclipsed4utoo]

Originally Posted by JLad10687

I found a 2001 GT 5-Speed with 42,287 miles for $11,450. What do you think?

sounds like a pretty good deal

Originally Posted by cficare68

I had problems in the rain. But my tires where pretty bald. Got new tires put on yesterday so I'll have to see how it goes

i can guarantee that your problems in the rain was caused by your bald times, and not b/c of the heavy ass car(although it didn't help out any).

[Sleepr awd]

^^ very good deal, cd changer or leather w/ that??

my tires on the front are sumitomo HTR+'s and they are past their prime, it really doesn't help that there is so much torque at 2k rpm, thats what always gets me loose (in the rain) is any pushing it when above 2k rpm

no no, never use your e-brake in the dry...unless ur psycho , Rain is ok more for fun than anything, snow is doable, but u need to practice e-braking, all my friends seem to hit curbs bcuz they practice on the streets

[eclipsed4utoo]

Originally Posted by Elchicoloco86

^^ very good deal, cd changer or leather w/ that??

my tires on the front are sumitomo HTR+'s and they are past their prime, it really doesn't help that there is so much torque at 2k rpm, thats what always gets me loose (in the rain) is any pushing it when above 2k rpm

no no, never use your e-brake in the dry...unless ur psycho , Rain is ok more for fun than anything, snow is doable, but u need to practice e-braking, all my friends seem to hit curbs bcuz they practice on the streets

i used to take my car through wet grass and pull the ebake and do some 360s. it was fun as hell.

[cficare68]

Originally Posted by JLad10687

I found a 2001 GT 5-Speed with 42,287 miles for $11,450. What do you think?

That about what I paid for mine when I bought it the beginning of Feb. I paid 11,700 for mine and it only had 31,220 miles on. Good deal though

Originally Posted by eclipsed4utoo

i used to take my car through wet grass and pull the ebake and do some 360s. it was fun as hell.

I used to take my beater Alero I had and my grand am on dirt roads all time. Actually took my alero though a sub division they where building before they paved the roads. It was fun until I hit a concreate drainage box and got my car stuck.

[Sleepr awd]

just keep in mind, there is always a better deal somewhere, , the bit is is that deal good enough for you?

[808drifter]

ok heres a deal (would u buy it) 2000 RS, 15,000 on car
for $8,000 its an auto and is in near factory condition

BTW anyone notice how our cars is reall slide happy with just a little e-brake action ( i drift (technically ass-drag) my 3g alot)

[Sleepr awd]

Originally Posted by 808drifter

ok heres a deal (would u buy it) 2000 RS, 15,000 on car
for $8,000 its an auto and is in near factory condition

BTW anyone notice how our cars is reall slide happy with just a little e-brake action ( i drift (technically ass-drag) my 3g alot)

on the couple occasions i let my friend drive it he compliments me on how well it drifts, which is ok cuz he lets me drive his GVR-4 and mess w/ people

its really funny when they have corolla's and i'm sitting there like

if you "ass-drag" it too much ur tires will wear funny and you won't be able to go quite as fast, ie flatspots suck