Evolution Imports

[nismo_power]

i remember celm. he is over on nissanforums, and i swear he was over here too.

[<SSR>David]

forget it, I'm just gonna wait it out until 2007 or maybe even later to buy another car. =)

[liny]

Originally Posted by GTES-t

Well, I've been gone for awhile so I missed the start of this. Anyways...


Wow, that's the third address I have seen for Evolution Imports! That's since June 2003 when BBB first created their file!
http://www.orlando.bbb.org/newsearch...07330012002719
Here are the other two:
P O Box 547733, Orlando, FL 32854-7733
322 East Central Blvd, Unit 1713, Orlando, FL 32808
Additionally, it may be physical, but not permanent. Suites are notorious for businesses/scams that have legal issues because they can quickly be abandoned/moved due to short term leases.

I have to say, you sound a lot like celm on other forums that preaches the "legality" of Evolution Imports. And EVERY time when confronted about the use of the "Kit Car" policy, mentions the Noble and 1GRacing who imports them.

That's actually where you are showing that Evolution Imports is illegally selling imported "Kit Cars." This is per EPA's guidelines that you claim Evolution Imports follows:


1GRacing is a legal importer/seller of the Noble, and they follow their requirements as such. They DO NOT provide engine/drivetrain because they are not allowed to. Evolution Imports provides the JDM engines, which are not legal and is circumventing the Clean Air Act.

Again, what Evolution Imports does is illegal and anyone should think hard about dealing with a business that has an unsatisfactory BBB rating, especially when dealing with high cost items!

Yes I am celm, when your uptight mods hear that you import skylines with out MX...BANNED YOU ARE!!!

I see you don’t really read...And we use the same loop hole as 1g racing and that’s assembled from parts!!. We act as a broker for the customers. And no we don’t sell them the motor, another company does and the shell is actually sold to the customer from a company we use in Japan. You and this kit car crap, the titling company doesn’t title it as a kit car. You want to know why. Cause an individual is allowed to buy parts and assemble/build a car. Each state has that section. I love when you have someone who lives in another country and yes i know you are from the US. But I imported more automobile related stuff then you ever had. I been at this game since mid 90`s importing evo and sti`s for some guys I NY who use to rally race. And retard read box W on the 3520 form, supposedly you know everything so I don’t have to tell you who that forms from. And you want to know why I keep referring back to 1G, a buddy of mine bought a noble and all the paper work stuff he did and all the contracts he signed with company 1 and company 2 (which 1g racing owns the company that sells the motors only under another name) and just the way 1G format is we just followed it

[GTES-t]

Originally Posted by liny

You and this kit car crap, the titling company doesn’t title it as a kit car. You want to know why. Cause an individual is allowed to buy parts and assemble/build a car.

Me and this Kit Car crap?! I'm not the one who tries to use the Kit Car policy to import non-conforming vehicles into the US in parts. That is the "loop-hole" you keep refering to using, so it IS a Kit Car no matter what the title says.

Now, 1GRacing works within the legal limits of the Kit Car policy, which is not a loop hole for them because they perform under the legal limits of that policy. I'm not here to debate where there engines come from or not. They don't install them, which they are not allowed to do under the policy. All of the companies I know of, that provide suitable engines for it, are US emission compliant engines.

As we've been through, I know about box W with EPA, that's for the importation of an engine alone, which doesn't matter, Evolution Imports are providing a completed vehicle. As I'm pointed out, whether you want to call the vehicles Kit Cars on not, the "loop hole" you are using is for the importation of Kit Cars. So they fall under Kit Car regulations... and whether you are an individual or a company, if you assemble the "Kit" for hire or resale, which Evolution Imports does, you're violating the Clean Air Act due to having non-US emission conforming engines:

Originally Posted by EPA

an individual or firm that assembles kits for hire or resale, that produces assembled kit cars for resale or that produces complete kit car packages for resale will be considered to be a manufacturer of new motor vehicles under the Clean Air Act. Such manufacturers and their vehicles are subject to all applicable regulations under the Act including civil penalties of up to $25,000 per vehicle for each new motor vehicle distributed in commerce, sold, offered for sale, or introduced, or delivered for introduction, into commerce, unless such vehicle is covered by a certificate of conformity issued by EPA.

Additionally, what Evolution Imports (and you) are illegally doing and recommending to customers:

Originally Posted by EPA

Motor vehicles must comply with the Clean Air Act and may not be disassembled nor purchased in a disassembled form for the purposes of evading the Clean Air Act or the Imports regulations.

Ok, now is when you usually get angry, don't directly answer the issues I've mentioned with fact, but non related importation of an engine alone. Then proceed to call me names, brag about how long and how many illegally imported non-kit cars, but are kit cars for the purpose of importation because that suits you, you have done.
Oh yeah, don't forget to mention that I'm not in the US again, I'm guessing you think that means I shouldn't know the import process, and the legal points of it, better then you.

[liny]

man you can say and write what ever you want. but i know the customers i sold to that came from this forum,and many other forums. you can type,type,type and paste ,paste ,paste till your little hearts content.

and Mr. know it all, my buddy who has the noble. his motor was imported on box W.he has copies of his 3520,HS7 ,CBP 3461.the turbo charged ford motor 1G uses never came to the US as a Turbo charged motor.you just dont turbo a NA motor, that motor in the noble was made for boost.
like i said my credibility on importing is much higher then yours.
and your words dont hurt my business as all,it accualy helps it cause people are curious and they call me and i explain stuff to them.i show them documents,epa,dot customs forms the whole works.i have nothing to hide from them

[GTES-t]

Originally Posted by liny

like i said my credibility on importing is much higher then yours.

You're right, the Unsatisfactory BBB rating tells it all. And I must say, the forums do to:

Originally Posted by Funk Soul DP

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 on Club 3G:
That place is a scam. Several people put down payments on evos and never saw the cars. A friend of mine was going to buy an Evo VII, but talked to some other customers and changed his mind.

Originally Posted by Gleason

Posted: Feb 11, 2004 on EvolutionM:
i havent ever heard any good comments about them. to many 'i payed and never got a car' or 'i got my car, but cant drive it because they lied' cases.

And right here on Automotive Forums, the last post:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t101576.html
I like the part where you, celm, posted that you were a customer and not a part of the business:

Originally Posted by celm

I bought a Evo 7 RSII from evolution Imports.I recommend them hightly.You can get a JDm EVO 8 right now from them at a great price.Call them up and ask for Adam,he`ll take care of ya.Also tell them frank from NY seen ya.

There's lots more! Just search "Adam Burdette" & Evolution Imports together, which interestingly enough, lead me to a 4th address for Evolution Imports:
309 RACHELLE AVENUE, SUITE 634
SANFORD FL 32771
Found here: http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...5=&r6=&r7=&r8=
Although it's come to my attention that it's likely Apt 634, not a business suite.
Now why would a credible "importer" have 4 different addresses!?

BTW, you can turbo a NA motor, that's what Noble did! That engine was originally NA! Noble beefed up the internals and slapped on a pair of turbos, that's what it means when they call it "Noble Developed."
Additionally, it wasn't a good idea to import the engine, you can get that engine, internals and turbo'd cheaper in the US then purchasing the engine in the UK + shipping, especially with the exchange rate!

[GTES-t]

Oh, possible interested customers may also like to know that the LLC after Evolution Imports stands for Limited Liability Company, which is:
Type of investment in which a partner or investor cannot lose more than the amount invested. Thus, the investor or partner is not personally responsible for the debts and obligations of the company in the event that these are not fulfilled.

In other words, don't expect to get your money back if the deal goes bad.

[nitrous36]

So instead of going through all of the trouble of having them do it for you. Why not just import the car to Canada( provided its at least 15) and then drive it in?

[GTES-t]

I came across some new information anyone interested in purchasing from Evolution Imports should be aware of. Thanks to Senor Info from EvolutionM for the assistance and documents.

Evolution Imports was originally Evolution Motors Limited, Inc.
Same PO Box based business from Orlando, FL, and Adam Burdette, with the following associated addresses:
1255 Belle Ave Suite 176, Winter Springs FL, 32780 407-688-1324
1521 Sunnyside Drive, Maitland, Fl 32751

Now the best part, Evolution Motors Limited became Evolution Imports, LLC on 20th June, 2002. Evolution Imports is a FOREIGN BASED business! Registered and based from the Island of Nevis in the Caribbean: Evolution Imports - Nevis
Now there's not only the issue of claiming against an LLC if the deal goes bad.
With this scheme if you want to sue the LLC, it must be done in Nevis under Nevis law which means you need a lawyer that's a Nevis citizen, the suit must be filed within 12 months of the "event," and you need to deposit a $25,000 bond with the court.

The same day Evolution Imports applied for a Foreign Limited Liability Company business license in the State of Florida which I had linked to in a previous post: Evolution Imports - Florida Foreign License
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...5=&r6=&r7=&r8=

What I didn't notice, is... 1 it's a foreign company license. 2 it was revoked on Sep 26, 2003 for failing to file the required annual report.

Now, here are all the names associated with Evolution Imports:
Adam Burdette
JoAnne Simmons
Frank Mendola
And the addresses:
309 Rachelle Ave, Suite 634, Sanford, FL 32771
(Actually Apartment 634, not a business suite)
322 East Central Blvd, Unit 1713, Orlando, FL 32808
And now 403 flomich street, suite 100, Holly Hills, Fl

So that makes six different addresses, unsatisfactory BBB rating and a revoked Florida FOREIGN business license for a "credible importer."

[<SSR>David]

it seems like someone has a lot of explaining to do, cause it seems like he is getting ripped apart. the records in the BBB is kinda hard to not think about. it seems like 2 out of 6 complaints got resolved. Not a good record. -.- Evolution Import is outta here in my eyes. Kit car or no kit car doesn't seem like people can trust them.

[liny]

Originally Posted by GTES-t

You're right, the Unsatisfactory BBB rating tells it all. And I must say, the forums do to:


And right here on Automotive Forums, the last post:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t101576.html
I like the part where you, celm, posted that you were a customer and not a part of the business:

There's lots more! Just search "Adam Burdette" & Evolution Imports together, which interestingly enough, lead me to a 4th address for Evolution Imports:
309 RACHELLE AVENUE, SUITE 634
SANFORD FL 32771
Found here: http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...5=&r6=&r7=&r8=
Although it's come to my attention that it's likely Apt 634, not a business suite.
Now why would a credible "importer" have 4 different addresses!?

BTW, you can turbo a NA motor, that's what Noble did! That engine was originally NA! Noble beefed up the internals and slapped on a pair of turbos, that's what it means when they call it "Noble Developed."
Additionally, it wasn't a good idea to import the engine, you can get that engine, internals and turbo'd cheaper in the US then purchasing the engine in the UK + shipping, especially with the exchange rate!

you want to find us you can find us here
403 flomich street suite 100
holly hills,fl

i started as a customer of EI back in 2001.anf like i said,the more stuff you write the more people get curious and they call.so keep up what ever crap you like to write...

[liny]

Originally Posted by GTES-t

I came across some new information anyone interested in purchasing from Evolution Imports should be aware of. Thanks to Senor Info from EvolutionM for the assistance and documents.

Evolution Imports was originally Evolution Motors Limited, Inc.
Same PO Box based business from Orlando, FL, and Adam Burdette, with the following associated addresses:
1255 Belle Ave Suite 176, Winter Springs FL, 32780 407-688-1324
1521 Sunnyside Drive, Maitland, Fl 32751

Now the best part, Evolution Motors Limited became Evolution Imports, LLC on 20th June, 2002. Evolution Imports is a FOREIGN BASED business! Registered and based from the Island of Nevis in the Caribbean: Evolution Imports - Nevis
Now there's not only the issue of claiming against an LLC if the deal goes bad.
With this scheme if you want to sue the LLC, it must be done in Nevis under Nevis law which means you need a lawyer that's a Nevis citizen, the suit must be filed within 12 months of the "event," and you need to deposit a $25,000 bond with the court.

The same day Evolution Imports applied for a Foreign Limited Liability Company business license in the State of Florida which I had linked to in a previous post: Evolution Imports - Florida Foreign License
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet...5=&r6=&r7=&r8=

What I didn't notice, is... 1 it's a foreign company license. 2 it was revoked on Sep 26, 2003 for failing to file the required annual report.

Now, here are all the addresses and names associated with Evolution Imports:
Adam Burdette / JoAnne Simmons 309 Rachelle Ave, Suite 634,
Sanford, FL 32771
(Actually Apartment 634, not a business suite)
322 East Central Blvd, Unit 1713, Orlando, FL 32808
And now 403 flomich street, suite 100, Holly Hills, Fl

So that makes six different addresses, unsatisfactory BBB rating and a revoked Florida FOREIGN business license for a "credible importer."

typical forum flunky with no life...do you have anything recent about US.if your trying to make your self sound like your hot shit when your not,at least get your info right

we are not a LLC any more.were INC and based in the state of FL.get your info straight

[GTES-t]

That's all you can say... "We are not a LLC any more"?!
That's funny Mr. Frank Mendola, at least as of August of this year, you still listed Evolutions Imports, LLC in your signature on several forums.

Now as far as this:

Originally Posted by liny

you want to find us you can find us here
403 flomich street suite 100, holly hills,fl 32117

Thank you for that information, now I know what Evolution Imports business partner/name? is:
www.projekt7tuning.com

Whois info for, projekt7tuning.com:
Registrant:
Jerry Baggett
403 Flomich St. Suite A
Holly Hill, Fl 32117

I hope you understand that I have trouble taking your word on any subject without proof.

[liny]

Originally Posted by GTES-t

That's all you can say... "We are not a LLC any more"?!
That's funny Mr. Frank Mendola, at least as of August of this year, you still listed Evolutions Imports, LLC in your signature on several forums.

Now as far as this:

Thank you for that information, now I know what Evolution Imports business partner/name? is:
www.projekt7tuning.com

Whois info for, projekt7tuning.com:
Registrant:
Jerry Baggett
403 Flomich St. Suite A
Holly Hill, Fl 32117

I hope you understand that I have trouble taking your word on any subject without proof.

then look under FL registered business and it will say INC.and yes you want to see JDM cars there at projekt 7.we just least part of there building.and we buy stuff fom them and they buy stuff from US.you are so dumb to dont you know the more you talk about me the more people call me.and thats more people i can show stuff to.i dont know how those brits deal with your yankee ass.why dont you post in the Uk forums or they cant stand your ass.all i have to say is thanks for the exposure

also if i said i was boning your mother on my signiture,you going to rewrite that also.i dont care if take my word or not...

[tazdev]

you want to start a bitch fight take it elsewhere.

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