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Old 09-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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Re: Re: Porsche 944 Racer Project

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My buddy and I are friends with the US Director for Moton suspension, so we went over to a performance center who builds cars for Porsche Factory Race team. He was telling us for our application, road race with NASA that we should move up to an 86 Turbo. He was saying that our motor would require extensive machining, welding, filing, water passaging, and rebuilding to turbo charge with massive power. Whereas the 86 Turbo Motor already has a lot of that done to it and what we would have to do costs less money.
No argument when it comes to the engine, the 951 engine is a world apart from the 944 NA 2.5 liter. I've seen 550hp out of the 968(generation after 944) 3.0 with the only internal changes being a set of custom connection rods, slightly shorter for lower compression, stock pistons. The 944 engine was largely unchanged from it's original form until the S and S2 which were the DOHC and 3.0 DOHC engines respectively, and it was never designed to make massive power.

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He was saying the suspension is junk from stamped steel. He said many times thay fail coming around turn 1 and turn 12 of Road Atlanta. You get what he calls the "death shake".
I question how much this guy is up on Porsche's factory racing efforts, at least historically. Porsche went racing at Lemans with that exact suspension, with 210-380hp turbocharged 924's, running on slicks no less. You know what they did? They seam welded and added gussets where needed, and they worked just fine, no bent arms or cracked welds. Alloy trailing arms are a big advantage, no argument there. Fortunately, the entire rear end can be changed out, and if you're serious about a track car this should be a must anyways. If you're careful about your measurements, you can make your own front control arms, and a new rear cross member to delete the torsion bar assembly and run coilovers. You should do this if you get a 951 even, those alloy front control arms can bend easily once you get past 1.0 G.

http://www.kokeln.com/products/951_8689/a_arms.shtml

http://www.kokeln.com/products/951_8...spension.shtml

There are a few changes you could make to that kokeln kit to save time and money, I'll get more into details if you'd like.

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Moreso switching over to an 86 because of the engine. The tech also said to stay away from 88+ for track racing because of the ABS.

Any thoughts to this before we buy a new car? Thanks Connor.
Yeah, I can understand that. The stock 944 lump doesn't have much potential, even when supercharged or turbocharged. The ABS can be disabled, I am pretty sure, and the stock LSD and M030 option are VERY desireable for a track car. The M030 suspension and brakes are trackworthy out of the box, just get some good pads and a couple of camber plates.
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