Project 1949 Ford (56K Annihalation)

[Jerry M Carter]

Will that motor get you through emissions. Not in Washinton or Arizona or over half the states.
Why not pick up a new mustang with all the computer bells and whisles.

Or if you were going to go back that far with the weight of the Ford it could easily use the torque of a big block.

Here lies the problem. Building something For Sale and the stuf your using is something the new buyer woudln't even use.

What was the price on the car ?

Jerry

[Rod&Custom]

The motor is sure to make emisions as the car is titled as a '49 Ford. The emission tests are extremely leniant on older cars. Also, if you haven't notice, this isn't a high-buck trailer queen, but rather a usable car. It is being built for fun, and reliable cruising. Big blocks are neat, but the parts are expensive, and I doubt that our frame could take the torque. It has that new front clip that was welded on, and the rear leaf spring mount needed a plate welded in due to sever rust. So sorry, but this is probably not the best car for pro street, and I didn't mean to lead you on, but I thought you had given up. The price was at 7g, but as I said before, this car may not be right for you. If you like, I can try to find some tabs on another though. I know of one that is a runner, and would possibly be ready for your project needs. I don't know much on it, except it would probably go for around 11g.

[Jerry M Carter]

Is it a club coupe?

Jerry

[Rod&Custom]

Well, it's a '50, so I don't know how that affects your decison. It is 2 dr. though, but I am not sure on the model of the '50s i.e. Club, Custom etc...

[Jerry M Carter]

back window on the club is about 12 or 13 inches long and is one piece.It can be non movable or a wing window.

On the Custom it is two pieces of glass and about 18 inches long. One piece is an up and down and the other piece is a wing

The two cars have a completely different top. Looks the same from the front of the top but as you look to the back of the top the entire roof is eight inches shorter in length.

I don't know how to send you a picture attachment.
Just new on line.

Jerry

[Rod&Custom]

UPDATE! Finally my updates have caught up to the progress. Almost anyway. It seems like we are moving so quickly now that I can't keep up! The 5.0 is at his house now, as of yesterday, along with the overdrive tranny. Hopefully the wiring works with us, and we can save the fuel injection. These pics are updates as of Thursday, and the only other thing done since then is a bracket fabricated for the steering column mount, and the dash is ready and primed. The exciting part of this update is that it is finally back on the ground after much suspension and frame work. WHOA, what a surprise on it's height! Well, take a look at the pics to see for yourself.

Here is a pic of the car, tried to get a feel of just how low it sits, but it really doesn't do it justice.
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The suspension setup including Monroe shocks, new disk brakes, and all the painted parts.
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/7313/dscf0019501ao.th.jpg
Side slab shot...
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This picture really shows how low she is. Look at those u-bolts(and three inch lowering blocks)!
http://img47.exs.cx/img47/3605/dscf0021506uj.th.jpg
A pic of the dash in the middle of a good scrubbin'.
http://img238.exs.cx/img238/7100/dscf0022504dx.th.jpg
Booty call!
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Alright, thats it for now, but hopefully I will be back fairly soon with some engine and tranny pics. We(5 guys) were able to do the pull from the LTD in about 3 hours, which isn't too bad. They hit it with some oven cleaner and sprayed it at the car wash, but it is still greasy, so more cleaning has to be done. Does anyone know exactly what we need from the efi setup? We thought we got everything, but it is a big mess of wires, so we could have missed some things. We pulled the ecu, and harness to the motor, solenoids on the motor harness, then the complete engine which was running when it was pulled. I figure we probably won't be able to re-use the o2 sensors, but hopefully we can find some cheap. Is there a way to bypass the check engine light? Thanks guys, hope you enjoyed the update.

[Jerry M Carter]

O2 sensors should be ok They are not any more fragile than all the other sensors.
On the check engine light just reset or just cut the bulb out.
If you are only required to me 1950 standards then the car will go right through with a little hot gas and plenty of engine heat
Looks like your having fun. Have you guys tried mayonase on your hair yet ?

Jerry

[Rod&Custom]

Hey guys, I know it has been awhile since an update, but there is good reason. We had to put the '49 on the backburner for a pay job. This would be a 1964 Fairlane Thunderbolt clone conversion/paintjob. This is now finished and we are beginning work on the '49 again. It is time to pull the 5.0 again and clean it up this time, and on re-entry it will have permanent motor mounts. But while the cherry picker is on leave, we are trying to sort out the nest of wiring for the efi. Carbueration is a fall back plan, but thats not gonna happen. Neither of us have done an efi conversion before, but we pulled EVERYTHING from the donor car('89 LTD) so all should go well. Does anyone know which solenoids can be eliminated on a speed density version? Also, what smog equipment can be taken out to free up a couple ponys and de-clutter the compartment? Glad to be back! Picture updates will come after engine clean-up and during motor mount fab.

[Jerry M Carter]

The EFI runs with a brainbox
Are you going to use the brainbox and the necessarry sensors?
If so reply !

Jerry

[TheSilentChamber]

brainbox = ecu (or ecm depending on orgin of the vehical). The best thing to do is keep all of the sensors and such and have it tuned to alter the fuel maps and such.

[Rod&Custom]

Yes, everything has been salvaged from the donor car. We just have to sort it all back out and re-wire it. I found the Ford Motorsport wiring diagram for it so now we just have to sort out what is needed and not needed. Some of the harness ran to other parts of the car and won't be needed. As said before, we would also like to eliminate some of the smog and solenoids. Doe anyone have any insight on this? I just realized that I haven't taken, or shown any pictures of the new engine. I will do that tomorrow before I get all greasy. We have all necessary wiring and the ecu. We will not be replacing it with an aftermarket module or chip as this gets very expensive and tuning is difficult for a beginner. I do not know enough about the programming of the base fuel maps to even get it running so we'll just stick with the stock setup as it will not be a race car. The idea behind the efi is just for the cool factor when the hood is up, plus it is a new experience! Engine pics soon.

[Jerry M Carter]

Eliminate smog and seleniods?

In order for the brainbosx to adjust the timing and the fuel it needs everything. If you eliminate one then it will not adjust correctly causing stumbling or to rich to lean.

You will not gain anything because it is all set to the cam angle, piston compression ratio, intake size, exhaust size, Engine Temp, humidity and all regualted all the way to the O2 sensor reads at the last muffler.
It is my opinion that you should use it all or none.
Its a lot of work and you have a hot rod so why not carberate it with a bigger compression piston and you will have it all

But the looks!

I am bidding on 05 Mustanges - using the entire set up for my 52 Ford - I entend to use everything - that way I get 325 HP and 325 Torque with all the necessary responses inbetween

JC 480 205 5778 Phoenix

[TheSilentChamber]

You know I'm going to call you and harass you now right?