What Would This Be Considered..?

[Jcrane88]

good work.......my sister is a writer and when she first started it didnt flow very well then as it progressed it started flowing....

[solaris=amazing]

Thanks alot everyone for your insight. I do not write to keep each sentence, or word connected to the poem/writing.

There's something called Abstract, take for instance a great guitar solo that you don't know what kind of riff/pulloff/fingertap/vibrato is next. I'd much rather write something that BEGS for the reader to ask questions. But then again, i don't even MEAN to do that, it just naturally comes out that way.. Yes i always read over what i wrote, and 99% of the time it stays exactly how i just wrote it.

Watch the movie Solaris, my favorite..origianl and newer version.. For me, i cannot stand when poetry rhymes..it sounds all the same basically.

In the end, i want it to be about FEEL...also Mystery.

[solaris=amazing]

BTW, Mediocrity..i feel the SAME exact way. I feel it is mainly about getting emotions on paper...not about impressing people with big, thoughtful words.

[eversio11]

Originally Posted by Mediocrity

Poetry can't be taught in english class, kid.

The people who "teach" poetry are the ones who want to mechanize and package art.

Sorry, but the only person who has to care about the poem is the poet himself.

"Poet's" out to make a buck on it aren't real poets. Sorry to say.

He's not out to make a dollar of his poetry, he's just trying to pour his emotions onto paper. That's true poetry. Not mechanized sold-in-a-book bullshit. If you spend time trying to make it sound good to everyone else, what are you doing to yourself?

I wouldn't put Robert Frost into the catergory of poets trying to 'make a buck'. And I don't know what kind of English class you're thinking of, but I'm talking about classes which teach about poetry and the poets background, not how to write poems. Get your head out of your pretentious little 'understanding' of art and realize that poetry and songs and paintings and sketches all take TIME, EFFORT, WORK, and above everything else, an understanding and study of the master's work.

If you think art is just an expression, fine, go around thinking all your watercolor paintings of a woman in a black dress in a forest at night is art. Or maybe your splish splash of tired cliches about 'depth' and 'longing' and 'crushing' of love thrown onto a notebook piece of paper is poetry. But leave the art and poetry STUDY, to the art and poetry STUDENTS. Who fucking STUDY.

Tosser.

[Mediocrity]

You can't study writing poetry.

You can't be a student of emotional writing.

Cheeky git.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by Mediocrity

For anyone critiquing the words and thoughts he used..

I mean this in a nice way..

but piss off.


Poetry's not about impressing people, it's not about flow, rhythm, punctuation, strucutre. It's not about powerful literature.

Poetry is about slamming your emotions onto a piece of paper. If it's structured and you're using rhymes to rhyme instead of drawing attention to certain words then it's not poetry. It's work.

Sorry, but that's how it is.

Anyone can do that, just like anyone can throw (literally) paint onto a canvas and call it art.

It takes a true artist, a person of fluid language to write a beautiful poem.

Picture Robert Frost or Edgar Allen Poe "slamming emotions onto paper." Think "The Raven" was written in one sitting? Writing good poetry is NOT easy.

[Mediocrity]

I don't call writing poetry to impress anyone..

poetry.

I call it a story.

[KustmAce]

Well, then when you write your "poetry" to yourself, you can throw ill-educated, unrelated words into a sea of nonsense.

But

If you are writing a poem, say, for a loved one, or a hopefully soon to be loved one, you better know what the hell your doing.

[Mediocrity]

They've never complained before.

Also, unless you've actually -read- what I've written, I suggest you keep your snide comments to yourself. tyvm.

[drunken monkey]

so if i bash together a bunch of words, not to impress anyone with any sense behind it, it's poetry as long as it's my emotions?
but the moment i take more than five minutes to think about how i'm going to set out it's structure it's not?

let's put it another way, the moment i take a moment to actually think about the art of writing, it's not poetry?

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

so if i bash together a bunch of words, not to impress anyone with any sense behind it, it's poetry as long as it's my emotions?
but the moment i take more than five minutes to think about how i'm going to set out it's structure it's not?

let's put it another way, the moment i take a moment to actually think about the art of writing, it's not poetry?

evidently

[Mediocrity]

Heh, if you're going to take what I say a completely different way than what I meant it, then you gits can have your own little discussion. I'll have no part of it :roll:

[Oz]

STFU all of you.