Dealer BSing Me?

[Jake6]

I'm in the process of buying a 2005 Ford Escape. The salesperson claims that the "Ford Family Price" is declared by the Ford Company "non-negotiable." Later, she started to waver on negotiability when I complained about the 900 miles on a "new" car. So I have two questions:

1. Is she full of it on negotiability? Can I try to negotiate a specific price?

2. Is a car with 900 miles on it new? It was driven off the lot by the buyer, but the buyer was unable to finance so the car was taken.

Thanks

[Hollowcreek]

I would say that if someone took posession of it before you did and had to return it due to finance issues, its still a used car.

These so called "employee" discounts are a scam. The average savings over what you can do on your own plus incentives is negligible. It averaged about $400 savings at GM according to consumer research. The non negotiable price thing is supposed to be true.

[OverBoardProject]

When i worked at a Ford Dealer many years ago the cars would roll off the truck with about 25km on them. (15 miles or so)
We would have to do a PDI (pre delivery inspection) and test drive the car.
So when the cars rolled onto the lot they would have about 20 miles on the clock.
Allow for some test drives and you should still never have more than 100 miles on the car. Otherwise it's used.

That car is probably a salesmans demo car. They are only suposed to put about 15000km on them or they go down in value some more.

If you want a new car talk to the salesman when a car is rolling off the truck.
Tell them that you'll do the final cleanup (up to 2 hours work since there is sometimes a thick film over them)
They still have to do the PDI for safety reasons. I've seen new cars with the seatbelts not attached, or the brake master cylinder empty. You sure don't want to fix those items on a new car.

Good Luck on your purchase

[JimR]

then the car is used and you can not negotieate with the (FFP) ford family ect... the dealer is BSing you with the "It's new the first buyer could not pay for it after 2 weeks!!" crap.