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Old 12-05-2004, 02:09 AM
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Question Beretta transmission no 1st, 2nd or Reverse

As stated in the title, the car will not move with the shifter in any position execpt "D" drive. This was only accomplished after I removed the connection to the TCC. With the TCC connected the car will not move.

The part that confuses me is that the car did not offer any warnings/symptoms that the trans was on it's way out. The car was driving normal, I drove it to a friends house appr 6 miles away. Visited for 2 hours, got appr 500ft down the road, at 25 the car acted like it downshifted hard, slowed to about 20, I accelerated harder with noticeable motor strain to about 45. Drove less than a mile to the stop sign, as I decelerated to 25 the hard downshift happened again, I stopped at the sign and the car refused to move. It acted like I was doing a brake torque. Towed it home.

No matter what gear is selected the car acts like I am doing a brake torque and the motor will not rev past 2500rpm (give or take 500 rpm). This accurs in Park and Neutral as well. If I remove the TCC Plug I can get the car to move forward when the shift lever is in the "D" Drive position only Reverse L1 and L2 show no change. It moves although very strained. I must use an excessive amount of gas to get it to move.

Recent (appr. 45 days) trans filter and fluid change. No abnormal color or smell from old fluid.

My wish is that this problem has something to do with the TCC or the VSS. My worst case fear is that the torque converter is shot.

If you have read this far, thank you. Unfortunatly No Codes come back other than normal 12 and no service engine light on dash. Any suggestions or ideas on how I can eliminate the sensors as the problem or figure out wich one is the problem?
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Old 12-05-2004, 10:18 PM
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Re: Beretta transmission no 1st, 2nd or Reverse

I have the same problem. Leave the TCC disconnected. I have driven my 98 baretta for about 70,000 miles like this and it works just fine (now at 145,000 miles) and I still get almost 30 mpg with my V6. A transmission shop will charge you at least $1000. labor remove the trans for service.
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Old 12-06-2004, 03:54 PM
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Re: Re: Beretta transmission no 1st, 2nd or Reverse

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I have the same problem. Leave the TCC disconnected. I have driven my 98 baretta for about 70,000 miles like this and it works just fine (now at 145,000 miles) and I still get almost 30 mpg with my V6. A transmission shop will charge you at least $1000. labor remove the trans for service.
Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately for me the trans is in bad shape. After my first post here I went back outside and kept messing around with the car trying different things.

With the TCC unplugged I was unable to get the car to go into reverse 1st or 2nd. Something was obviously hung up in the trans, probably third gear hung partially. I attempted to blow the trans completely figuring what can I lose. So I did a few neutral slams with the engine reving as fast as it would go (about 2500rpm). I repeated this going from neutral to Drive about 5 times and all of a sudden something let loose. Now the car drives perfect in reverse and 1st gear only, 2nd and Drive slip horribly bad.

Final verdict, trans is shot. The fluid is now burnt and smells bad. I can get the car up to normal cruise speeds (55mph) if I start in 1st up to about 35mph, let off on the gas a little to let it shift to second then give it gas until I get to 55mph and then put the shift lever into Drive. As long as I do this everything seems fine except a horrible vibration comming from the tranny.

Thanks anyway.
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Re: Beretta transmission no 1st, 2nd or Reverse

sounds like lower reverse gears and clutches in you trans that to bad
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