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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
OK, This Chilton might be worth something after all. The numbers of the fuses that are out are: 2-5 and 7-14. For some reason 6 has power. I don't think this is the best wiring schematic in here.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
I have searched the wiring diagrams for each component you mentioned and do not see a common place for them to fail. I hate to say it, but it seems like you have to start tearing the harness apart and look for broken wires or corrosion on the connections. I would start at the bottom of underhoof fuse panel and go to the inside from there. It could be a lot of corrosion or wires broken under the fuse box. Wish I had it here. I can't seem to find an easy place to tell you to start looking. We had one once that had wires broken inside the left kick panel. Good luck and keep us updated on it.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
The funny thing is that if you jump power to the PCM fuse, then all the others start working correctly. I have traced the wire from the PCM fuse in the inside fuse block and I traced the PCM fuse wire from the under hood block. They come together in the schematic to the PCM Relay, but in reality they come together in the Body Control Module. I am trying a BCM off another car and I will let you know what happens.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
Thanks. We have a few Tauruses in our fleet and the fix might be of help in the future.
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Hey Sunspot. Have you found anything? I searched a few other forums I go to and found the wiring inside left kick panel was a problem and the, believe it or not, TR(transmission range)sensor can cause this problem. Keep me informed. I am intrigued by this now. We have about 100 Tauruses in the fleet and a fix would be great. If I find anymore info, I will let you know.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
I am still waiting for the guy to bring me the BCM to try. The TR sensor is located on top of the transmission, isn't it? I did try that sensor already if that is it. I will let you know what the BCM does when I get it.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
That is the sensor I was talking about. Good luck and keep posted.
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Here is a fix from another site that was having problems with part of the fuse panel not having power. Might be worth a look.
Well guys I have a strange problem here and I'm hoping someone has run into this before. Basicly about 6 or 8 fuses in the panel aren't getting power. Fuses are for the gem, radio, PW. interior lighting. If I route power to any of the fuses all systems including the gem come to life and work. I've checked the ignition switch and all wires are being powered up and I can't find any problems to the fuse panel. If I could get my hands on a wiring schematic for those circuit life would be good! Are there any inherent problems with these fuse blocks? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? Spent a few hours on this one and I really don't want to waste and more of my customers money. All help will be greatly appreciated! RELATED REPAIR HISTORY Replaced TRS as mentioned in the archived for causing alot of similar problems. ____________________________ FIX ___________________________ As I mentioned in my help request I had already tried a new TRS(neutral safety switch), but thanks for the replies. Special thanks to Stuart Moss, Joseph Kaschak and BSmith2684 for sending me to the drivers side inner fender. After removing the harness cover I didn't find any broken wires. But after a cup of coffee and a bit of time I spotted the culprit. A 12 gauge, Tan/black wire that had fat spots in it. I yanked on the wire and it fell apart.I dug a little deeper and found 2 more spots on the wire and ended up replacing about 3 feet of it. All is well and my customer is very happy! Thanks guys, you made my day!
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
Well, the BCM didn't do it. I feel I have exhausted anything accept going into the harness. Man, I really hate digging into harness's. Thanks for the additional info by the way. Oh, and did I mention that I hate digging into a wiring harness.
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Re: Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
Had similar problem with 97 Taurus LX sedan. #1. had to jumper wire to ecm to start. #2 wipers would go psycho. #3 no dome lights. #4 no door locks.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
thanks, but I have tried replacing that box already. This has to be the strangest car mystery of my career.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
Happy Days Are Here Again!!!! I have found our needle in a haystack. I discovered a hidden section of the main harness. Leave it to Ford to run the main harness inside the fender on the drivers side. I took out the inner wheel well and found it to be all wet and muddy up in there. After peeling away some coverings and cleaning the mud off the wires, I found a fat green wire with a violet stripe with a big brown dot on it, I peeled the covering away and found there was not much left to the wire. I replaced the section of wire and everything works again. Hurray, now I can feel good charging the guy for all my time. Thanks for the help and I hope none of you ever have to find a needle in a haystack.
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Re: 97 Taurus Dead (not for the rookies)
Glad you got it Sunspot. Sometimes you just got to cut and snip. Thanks for posting the fix.
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Being way2old is why I need help from younger minds The sooner you fall behind the more time you'll have to catch up. ![]() HEY Y'ALL--READ THIS Here are some of our old vehicles for sale.
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