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Old 06-02-2005, 08:50 PM
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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

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Old 06-02-2005, 08:52 PM
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If Texas were to allow this where would it stop? What would happen if people who have sex with animals wanted to adopt kids? What would happen if families who were really into the incest wanted to adopt kids? Where do you draw the line?

Texas draws the line at gays and I agree. If you don't like the idea of animal "lovers" or incest families adopting kids then you know how the rest of us feel about gays.
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:39 PM
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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

I wonder when Texas will ban logic and reason? (not that they have a problem with TOO MUCH of that anyway)

Also, Musclestang, you're trying to build a rediculously slippery slope. What if Zombies want to adopt children? Or space aliens? WHERE WILL WE DRAW THE LINE?
Here's the bad part - Texas isn't banning animal humpers from adopting, having, or taking care of children - they're just banning homosexuals - NO LINE HAS BEEN DRAWN! - at least not in the way you hypothetically mention it. Animal lovers are still free to adopt children. Homos are not. How's that for nonsense?
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Old 06-13-2005, 12:55 PM
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I've always sided with the notion that children growing up with gay or lesbian guardians/step parents will be more likely to either turn out being gay themselves, and/or receive more bullying at school, and/or at the very least grow up much more confussed about their sexuality.

Notwithstanding my personal opinion however, if an abused or orphaned child can actually recieve a loving and supportive upbringing from a gay or lesbian couple, how can anyone possibly refuse the opportunity?

Consider this question: If a gay and straight couple were both trying to adopt the same child, and the gay couple proved to be able to provide the best upbringing - say because they had steady jobs and were more loving, and also because the straight couple had a history of alcohol abuse - should the gay couple be disqualified because of their sexuality, and, would the best thing for the child really be to place him under the care of the shady straight family?

It's like can you imagine taking an abandoned child and actually placing them with an abusive foster family, when there was a perfectly good gay family available ready to love that kid...
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Old 06-13-2005, 02:08 PM
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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

i wish i was raised by gay ppl, then i'd have better fashion sense then i do now. gay men, not lesbians, cos then i'd be walking around with a crew cut, wife beater, flannette shirt and boots. does it really matter if the kid is going to a good home? define a stable/normal family anyway.
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

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Notwithstanding my personal opinion however, if an abused or orphaned child can actually recieve a loving and supportive upbringing from a gay or lesbian couple, how can anyone possibly refuse the opportunity?

Consider this question: If a gay and straight couple were both trying to adopt the same child, and the gay couple proved to be able to provide the best upbringing - say because they had steady jobs and were more loving, and also because the straight couple had a history of alcohol abuse - should the gay couple be disqualified because of their sexuality, and, would the best thing for the child really be to place him under the care of the shady straight family?

It's like can you imagine taking an abandoned child and actually placing them with an abusive foster family, when there was a perfectly good gay family available ready to love that kid...

That would be a good point if there was a shortage of loving straight families that want to adopt a child, but there isnt. Theres thousands of loving straight couples that want to adopt a child
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:46 AM
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All I'm saying is that we really limit a kids future by putting dubious restrictions on prospected foster guardians/parents - and frankly restrictions are stupid if they prevent a kid from getting into a loving and supportive home (restrictions are suposed to prevent them from going into bad homes).

There may not necessarily be a shortage in prospected foster parents, but what percentage of foster parents actually go out looking to - or are willing to consider - adopting an abused shit disturber with a very early history of substance abuse?? There are some super dedicated people out there who look to rescue kids like this, but for the most part the people out there looking to adopt are trying to find the nicest, prettiest kind they can get. So there are a lot of kids out there who will wait to get into homes, and - not to say all gay/lesbian couples will adopt any kid on two legs - the fact is there are a lot of gay/lesbian couples out there who are very eager to adopt (because the realisation is here that they finally can adopt).

I'm not saying gay people shouldn't be scrutinized when it comes to adopting children. You want to scrutinize them, I'm all for it - interview them more times, go spy in their windows at night to see if they walk around naked, take extra points off their application simply for being gay... whatever. What I DON'T agree with is banning gay adoption outright because as I said there could easily come a time where the gay couple is clearly the best option for some kid (even after you deducted points for their sexual orientation). Now imagine forcing the kid to follow a less privaledged future simply because of some stupid ban...

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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

Who were almost all gay people raised by?


Hmm, I think I know the answer...straight people.

So I think we should stop letting straight people raise children, it might turn out gay.
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Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

If homosexuality is a normal part of nature, let the homosexuals reproduce there own babies. Obviously "mother nature" will give them some cuz its so natural to be gay. Why should we take babies from the parents who are supposed to reproduce?
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Re: Re: Texas bans gays from foster care

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Why should we take babies from the parents who are supposed to reproduce?
This is a seperate topic, but there are certainly situations where a child should be taken from the home. Aside from that, incacerated parents would have a hard time taking care of a kid.













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Old 06-15-2005, 07:24 PM
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This is a seperate topic, but there are certainly situations where a child should be taken from the home. Aside from that, incacerated parents would have a hard time taking care of a kid.

I dont think he meant taking away kids from parents, but that gay people would be taking away from the number of kids that straight couples can adopt. So some natural straight couples, who are meant to reproduce (but cant for some reason) might not get a child. So they're taking that child that they would get away from them


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