06 V6 tib and turbo?

[Tib2004]

hey guys,
working on getting a stage 2 turbo built for my 04 V6 and I wanted to know what if any obstacles or probs I might run into and how to get around them. This would include timing, fuel management, etc. Any good and knowledgable info would be appreciated.

[nisco]

timing and fuel managment can be taken care of with electronics... SAFC-II, MSD (ignition) eyc etc etc, parts liek that

[speeddemonGtV6]

there arent many "obstacles" to get around its more making sure your engine is fit enough to handle it... unless im mistaken your list of mods doesnt list aftermarket exhaust, you'll definately want that if you dont already have it.

[nisco]

Originally Posted by speeddemonGtV6

unless im mistaken your list of mods doesnt list aftermarket exhaust, you'll definately want that if you dont already have it.

well if youre gonna go turbo, youre gonna want to go with an exhaust more suitable for a turbo'd set up... i.e. a 3 in exhaust... every aftermarket exhaust system out right now isnt big enough (diameter wise) to help a turbo'd car

[Tib2004]

Originally Posted by nisco

well if youre gonna go turbo, youre gonna want to go with an exhaust more suitable for a turbo'd set up... i.e. a 3 in exhaust... every aftermarket exhaust system out right now isnt big enough (diameter wise) to help a turbo'd car

definately gave that some thought and I already had my heart set on getting the Greddy Evo 2's but theyre only 2 1/2 inches. That's why ive put off getting the exhaust. The Evo setup would work well with a s/c but no one makes a stage 2 as of yet so i'm waiting. The only thing that makes me uneasy about getting the custom exhaust is that youre never really sure how it's going to sound. Anyway, you guys have given me great advice and I will definately keep you posted on how progress runs with the turbo setup.

[nisco]

Originally Posted by Tib2004

definately gave that some thought and I already had my heart set on getting the Greddy Evo 2's but theyre only 2 1/2 inches. That's why ive put off getting the exhaust. The Evo setup would work well with a s/c but no one makes a stage 2 as of yet so i'm waiting. The only thing that makes me uneasy about getting the custom exhaust is that youre never really sure how it's going to sound. Anyway, you guys have given me great advice and I will definately keep you posted on how progress runs with the turbo setup.

... you really gotta stop thinking about "stages".... theyre jus an excuse for a compay to convince you to spend more money on their products...

ngm has stage 0- stage 2.5- stage 3... alpine kits
hes going to have a twin screw s/c soon, and im sure thatll have stages also....
take teh alpine s/c for example...
it hes stages
0- no intercooler
1- intercooler
2- extra injector different size pulley

ngm- each stage is a smaller pulley, and at one point you have to install teh methanol injection as an extra cooling agent

same idea with ripp mods s/c
tho they dont knwo what theyre gonna do about their stage 2 cause their s/c isnt very stable the vortech blowers theyre using are either crapping out or their "fuel managment" system, or lack there of, is retarded...

ngm will probably have a few stages of his turbo...

stages are there for you to upgrade... not jus say i have a stage 2 s/c... cause a stage 2 alpine, is very close with a stage 1 vortech s/c ....
and a "stage 2 turbo" has a HUGE possibility of being less powerful than some else's stage 1....

[Tib2004]

lol ok ok,my bad, ive been dragged into the mass commercial hype that big businesss corporations lead us into in order to spend more money on supposedly getting more power or a "better product". I see how it works now. Thanks for the heads up.

Originally Posted by nisco

... you really gotta stop thinking about "stages".... theyre jus an excuse for a compay to convince you to spend more money on their products...

ngm has stage 0- stage 2.5- stage 3... alpine kits
hes going to have a twin screw s/c soon, and im sure thatll have stages also....
take teh alpine s/c for example...
it hes stages
0- no intercooler
1- intercooler
2- extra injector different size pulley

ngm- each stage is a smaller pulley, and at one point you have to install teh methanol injection as an extra cooling agent

same idea with ripp mods s/c
tho they dont knwo what theyre gonna do about their stage 2 cause their s/c isnt very stable the vortech blowers theyre using are either crapping out or their "fuel managment" system, or lack there of, is retarded...

ngm will probably have a few stages of his turbo...

stages are there for you to upgrade... not jus say i have a stage 2 s/c... cause a stage 2 alpine, is very close with a stage 1 vortech s/c ....
and a "stage 2 turbo" has a HUGE possibility of being less powerful than some else's stage 1....

[nisco]

its cool, i jus wanted to get you to understand it better

[Tib2004]

Originally Posted by nisco

its cool, i jus wanted to get you to understand it better

ahhh that I do mistah miagi, this young grasshoppa understands very well

[Tib2004]

hey,
how do i get cool pics of cars, mooning chicks and guys burning their face off with flaming shots? My page is so boring lol.

[scottsee]

its a litte impractical to ask what you'll run into. i wrote a couple dozon things, read it over and realised i need to add more then another dozzon not to feel stupid about my reply.

every aspect of the air/fuel delevery need to be alterd. the pcu, ecu, and ignition system is also inadiquit for force induction, so extra electronic controlers will be needed.

a turbo system should be designed around desired airflow #'s. the term "kit" reflects it. smaller turbos "can" require less supporting mods then larger turbo's, depending on the car, and oem equimpent thats in your car.

what is this stage 2 turbo your talking about??

[wanafastrtib]

The other problem w/turbo is you'll need to install forged pistons, because of the prolonged heat in the cylinders and constant boost in the cylinder in which the 2.7's weak internals dont handle too well

[nisco]

Originally Posted by wanafastrtib

The other problem w/turbo is you'll need to install forged pistons, because of the prolonged heat in the cylinders and constant boost in the cylinder in which the 2.7's weak internals dont handle too well

ima try not to insuult you, but where do oyu get your facts... cause theyre WAY FUCKING OFF

do you own a tib and not know anything about it?
or are you jus droppin in and thinking you know what youre talking about...

[Red2.0Tib]

I am also going to try and be nice here, but I doubt it will work. Those of you have have ZERO knowledge of FI should just FORGET about posting, period. Also those of you who read BS rumors that were proven wrong AT LEAST 30 times now, should really get some knowledge of engines and how they work BEFORE you make an idiot of yourself. Just b/c you can install an intake and exhuast doesn't mean you can explain physics and the internal combustion engine, nor does it make your car fast....

[scottsee]

Aluminum blocks have been widly abandond in the high horespower world, replaced by cast iron blocks, due to the way aluminum reacts to extream cylinder pressure/heat durring the power stroke. cylinder blow by is not a common known problem with aluminum engiens today as it was back in the day 15-20 years ago! they were know as extreamly unreliable blocks..

thats why almost every block you come across designed for 300+hp today in modern manufacturing has strong castiron used for the block assembly and lightweight heat tranparent aluminum in the head. aluminum has been long known for warpage, and distortion. this is also true with engine internals. Aluminum rodds have a veary low shelf life, but they are extreamly light. widely used in drag cars that run 1-2 times down the track before replacing the engine..

i guess where im going with this is. they're partually correct buy indicating the weakness of the delta 2.7 as a stock hight horespower machine. but just enough to still need correcting.