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Old 05-21-2005, 10:10 PM
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Hatchbacks For Racing?

hey whats up. first post here. anyways, i like hatchbacks like the honda civic si, the crx, ford focus and others. well, can any of these cars be made into good racing cars? i've read around and haven't heard much about them. thank you in advance.
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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

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hey whats up. first post here. anyways, i like hatchbacks like the honda civic si, the crx, ford focus and others. well, can any of these cars be made into good racing cars? i've read around and haven't heard much about them. thank you in advance.
Well I've loved hatches all along simply because I really dislike having to have a trunk separate from the back seat. I like easy access and a hatch will sound better with subwoofers in the trunk because there isn't so much blocking the air from reaching the front granted you'd have to take off that back hatch cover (correct me if I'm wrong here audio guys, I'm just basing this response off of my own experiences).


As far as racing, anything with a good engine has potential to be a 'race car'. Those honda hatches are generally light and its popular to swap alternate honda motors in them to give them a much better power/weight ratio thus enabling them to compete with higher end vehicles on the track. The focus I'm not too sure of though I have seen a turbo focus that was pretty nice.


Its a pretty broad question with a variety of answers, I'd suggest you do some car specific research first.
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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

my hatch about 2100lbs with me in 200 HP *crank* lil over zealous with HP but its near that its fun anycar can be good god this sucks.
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:48 AM
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thanks. i'm looking at the ford focus and the honda civic si right now. i dont want to spend that much money though. i'm leaning towards the civic right now but whichever i can find for a better price i will probably get. also, do you think these cars can compete with other cars geared more towards racing? like the eclipse, lancer evo, wrx, dsm, fox body, etc. thank you.
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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

well one thing for sure is that the ford focus will outhandle almost anything. so you really wont need to make any suspension upgrades, handling is what that cars known for.
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Re: Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

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Well I've loved hatches all along simply because I really dislike having to have a trunk separate from the back seat. I like easy access and a hatch will sound better with subwoofers in the trunk because there isn't so much blocking the air from reaching the front granted you'd have to take off that back hatch cover (correct me if I'm wrong here audio guys, I'm just basing this response off of my own experiences).
Partially correct, really the SPL gains are because the shape of the interor cabin is a box with rounded corners and not the funky shape of a sedan, plus most hatchs are cheap and all the body panels tend to resonate a lot. same reason SUV's are louder than trucks or sedans, and hatchs have the advantage because there is less air space, though the air in the SUV will have a lower resonant frequincy because longer true wavelengths can exist.

anyway, hatchs can be fast, but they can also be POS ricers...their advantage is they are really light, in general. also, just an FYI...Ford focuses run with Evo's and WRX's etc. in the Rallys, but they are generally factory backed with lots of cash...
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anyway, hatchs can be fast, but they can also be POS ricers...their advantage is they are really light, in general. also, just an FYI...Ford focuses run with Evo's and WRX's etc. in the Rallys, but they are generally factory backed with lots of cash...
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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

Very true, i just though id leave that one out...lol. they are also striped of all comferts so it is a chassis, som windows, wheels, engine, tranny, driveline.... and some pedals and steering wheel.
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okay. so could something like a ford focus, vw golf, or a civic hatchback be made into a good racing platform? I would like to keep it pretty cheap if possible.
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My car is a hatchback.
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88 rx7, light cheap and fast!!!!!!
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Re: Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

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My car is a hatchback.
you make a good point. alot of performance cars are hatchbacks.

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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

i think he means hatch like a Ford Focus or Civic 3 door or CRX...but yes, performance cars are generally coupe (with a trunk) or hatch...
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Re: Hatchbacks For Racing?

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anyway, hatchs can be fast, but they can also be POS ricers
My car's a hatchback.

And FYI, any car can be made into a POS ricer.
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