Why did Toyota decide to stop the GT-FOUR Celicas?

[Hossain_Trance101]

Why did Toyota decide to stop the GT-FOUR Celicas from production and entering Rally Championships? Did the car do really crap alongside the WRX and EVO or something like that?

[Vip09]

Originally Posted by Hossain_Trance101

Why did Toyota decide to stop the GT-FOUR Celicas from production and entering Rally Championships? Did the car do really crap alongside the WRX and EVO or something like that?

Toyota was caught cheating and they were banned from rally racing for the rest of that year.. I think they cut the GT-Four from rally soon after that. That's what I've read.

[Vip09]

http://freespace.virgin.net/shalco.com/tte_ban.htm

Originally Posted by Rally Sport

TOYOTA BANNED FROM WRC
Rally Sport December 1995

Toyota Team Europe has been banned from competition for the next 12months, and the points already gained in the 1995 World Rally Championship have been taken away by the FIA.

"It's the most ingenious thing I have seen in 30 years of motorsport." admitted FIA President Max Mosley after an extraordinary meeting of the FIA's World Council convened following technical reports on Toyota from the Catalunya Rally.

The cause of complaint was that Toyota had fitted turbo restrictor?s which were modified in three ways:

The restrictor was not sealed so it was possible to move it without touching the seals.

It was possible for airto enter the engine without passing through the restrictor.

The position of the restrictor could be moved so it was further away from the turbine than the50 mm limit permitted.

It was discovered that these irregularities were made possible by a flange which had a special hidden bypass device which was held open against a very strong spring. The hose which connected the restrictor to the turbo had a metal casing inside, and attached to this casing were catches which could secretly force open the by-pass flange to the extent of 5 mm.

Max Mosley explained: "When the system was dismantled, the flange would automatically close itself and remove evidence that extra air could have entered engine. This system not only allowed extra air which did not pass through the restrictor to enter the engine, but also the restrictor itself could illegally be moved further from the turbo.

"The hose was fixed to the restrictor by a jubilee clip. A special tool was then applied to open the device and then the device then gripped in the open position by a second clip. Both of these clips had to be undone for a scrutineer to check the restrictor and in the process of opening those clips the device snapped shut.

"Inside it was beautifully made. The springs inside the hose had been polished and machined so not to impede the air which passed through. To force the springs open without the special tool would require substantial force. It is the most sophisticated and ingenious device either I or the FIA's technical experts have seen for a long-time. It was so well made that there was no gap apparent to suggest there was any means of opening it."

The FIA estimates that 25 per cent more air was allowed into the engine than permitted although admits it's difficult to estimate how much more power that would achieve. An expert put it as high as an extra 50 bhp?a considerable advantage when the cars are supposedly limited to 300 BHP.

TTE did not claim the device was legal but was represented by lawyers who entered a plea in mitigation. Mosley went on to say that the points Toyota and their drivers, Juha Kankkunen, Didier Auriol and Armin Schwarz had gained in 1995 would simply be taken away but others would not move up to fill the gaps.

The team would also be banned from contesting the 1995 Network Q RAC Rally and the 1996 World Rally Championship. He also stated that the FIA would not allow the team to get around the restrictions by entering under another guise and went on to say that there was however, nothing to suggest that the drivers were aware of anything going on.

According to Toyota the device had been devised at a "certain level" and the management knew nothing about it. The FIA dismissed this claim, saying that as a team they were responsible for all their actions.

He went on to say that there were indications that this type of thing was not happening with in other teams and praised those who were concerned with discovering the irregularity. TTE has announced that it is planning to appeal against the ban extending through 1996.

The absence of the team would weaken an already frail championship and leave it to a fight between Subaru, Mitsubishi and Ford with Subaru being the obvious favourites.

[Hossain_Trance101]

LOL guys! I am beginining to lose trust on Toyota as being cheapasses. Thanx a thousand for that info (It has also been a mystery to me why such a thing could happen to such a good car). The company should be ashamed...

[nialusa]

In a way toyota should be congratulated, not of course for stopping production of the GT4 or for actually cheating, but the system that they got caught cheating with, was some of the best engineering I have ever seen, an absolute work of Geniuss, if anyone knows of some pictures it would be great to post them up, or a link.

[91 Celica St]

for sure, the reason y toyota stopped making all tracks in the usa though was beucasue of poor sales

[SigmaProjects]

Originally Posted by 91 Celica St

for sure, the reason y toyota stopped making all tracks in the usa though was beucasue of poor sales

Yea I would have to agree with 91. Plus if my memory serves me correctly most teams weren't in favor of the 3rd Gen GT4s since they thought the front end was too long making it hard to see where your front end was and why they chose to use the corolla. For whatever reason what toyota said why they pulled from the WRC was they found it wasn't helping sales and lost interest in the sport in favor to join Formula 1, which I think is of higher calibur anyways (although I enjoy Rally racing more =P ).

[LaYzIeNoY]

the cheating thing and the poor sales
also the car was quite expensive from the dealership
but also because they only made them to compete, like the early model EVO's, ya the way that they cheated was a thing of genius

if i remember carlos sainz also complained to toyota about the design of the celica being inappropriate for rally[cockpit, view, etc.], and they changed cars to the corolla I believe