Integra VS Maxima

[spider II]

And yeah i really have to agree with you porscheguy, Minnesota SUCKS for racing. Unless you want to drive your car all the way up to brainard and pay an assload of money to race a 1/4 mile track. And anyone who is stupid enough to race with other cars around deserves to get in some sort of accident. I get outta town if i feel like speeding, also night racing is not a good idea, yeah less people are out and less chance to hurt someone but come on, instead you have limited visibility, drunk drivers, and wildlife, night racing is almost as bad an idea as racing in traffic.

[97integrals]

Originally Posted by IntegraB16

one thing i think that a lot of people are not thinking about here is the fact that not everyone races on busy roads. I barely ever race where it would endanger anyone buy myself and maybe the other driver. Around here where i live.. we wiat until atleast 11:00pm then go out of town to a long strait stretch and race until we get bored and go home. No other people around but us street racers who all know the risks and are willing to take them. No "Innocent" motorists. I don't see a problem with it. I understand where everyone is comming from. Yes it is dumb to race with other cars around. I too have had someone pull infront on me. It sucked. So now i keep it out of town where no one else is, but the other racers. So to all of you that dont have a place to race.. just wait until the wee hours when most people are in bed and go race when no one is going to be endangered.

Ignorance!!! My bother was killed three years ago coming home from a party at 1am in a very rural part of phoenix, Az. No other "innocent" motorists around just to guys street racing, a four way stop and my little brother. The sad part is the only one that died was the "innocent" one, my bother. There is no justification for street racing and no safe time or place to do it. GROW UP!!!

[porscheguy9999]

Originally Posted by 97integrals

NOWHERE TO RACE? DON'T RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VERY SIMPLE CONCEPT

Like I said, I'm not the one racing. My friend is. I'm just with him when he does.

[porscheguy9999]

Originally Posted by spider II

And yeah i really have to agree with you porscheguy, Minnesota SUCKS for racing. Unless you want to drive your car all the way up to brainard and pay an assload of money to race a 1/4 mile track. And anyone who is stupid enough to race with other cars around deserves to get in some sort of accident. I get outta town if i feel like speeding, also night racing is not a good idea, yeah less people are out and less chance to hurt someone but come on, instead you have limited visibility, drunk drivers, and wildlife, night racing is almost as bad an idea as racing in traffic.

Elk River, eh? Brainard's track isnt very nice. Have you ever been there? Apart from that, is there any place E.R. that has good streets? I live in Edina so I would have to drive about a half hour to get there. If so, what times are the racers out?

[IntegraB16]

Give me a break IntegraLs, Do you even know what ignorant means? Look it up, it means lacking knowledge. anyway.. i don't want to school you, so i will get to the point. Not everyone races on open roads and blows through stop signs. I'll have you know that where i go there is not a stop sign or cross road withen 2 miles. If we even see headlights we stop what were doing and pull over. So before you go off judging other people and the situations they are in, maybe you need to get all the facts. Because the way you are talking on here makes you look like a real ass hole. I'll be the first to admit that street racing isn't safe or the smartest thing to do. But you have no idea what goes on or how other people do things. I'm sorry about your brother, but keep your comments to yourself.

[kornflakes28546]

Originally Posted by IntegraB16

Give me a break IntegraLs, Do you even know what ignorant means? Look it up, it means lacking knowledge. anyway.. i don't want to school you, so i will get to the point. Not everyone races on open roads and blows through stop signs. I'll have you know that where i go there is not a stop sign or cross road withen 2 miles. If we even see headlights we stop what were doing and pull over. So before you go off judging other people and the situations they are in, maybe you need to get all the facts. Because the way you are talking on here makes you look like a real ass hole. I'll be the first to admit that street racing isn't safe or the smartest thing to do. But you have no idea what goes on or how other people do things. I'm sorry about your brother, but keep your comments to yourself.

why don't you put yourself in integrals' shoes and look at the situation from his point of view? is racing really worth your life or others? no

i think you ARE ignorant and shouldn't be schooling anyone. you've never been through what he has and i think he's one of the few people on this ricer-filled site that understand how stupid street racing is.

i apologize for being so blunt but it makes me mad when you're trying to say shit to someone who has lost a love one to street racing and wants to put his 2 cents in to the discussion. if you don't care what he has to say then ignore it but don't reprimand him for speaking from experience.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by IntegraB16

Because the way you are talking on here makes you look like a real ass hole.

Re-read your comments, you're the only one who's coming off as an asshole.
You're one of the few people to ride on a straight road and be smart enough to pull over if you see a car coming down the road.I've never known or heard of anyone else doing it, so why would anyone assume that you try and make the situation as "safe" as possible. Most people who street race, just roll up on someone in traffic and go at it; so there's no reason for someone to have assumed you were any different. And clearly you are ignorant, because you're too close minded to really see the other side of things. And your comments show that. Think before you write.

[IntegraB16]

I guess the point that i am trying to get across is that not everyone is reckless when racing. Yes, most are. But myself and my friends try to make it as safe as illegal street racing can be. We all know the dangers that come with racing and i guess are stupid enough to keep doing it. I can't lie.. if i had someone killed by a racer or if i killed someone I don't know what i would do.. I just don't want to be steriotyped like a lot of the other racers are. I'm sorry if i sound like an ass, I just want people to know that not everyone that races is as stupid as the guy that rolls up on you doing 90 in traffic.

[porscheguy9999]

^^ EXACTLY my point. I think that when most people think "street racing", they think kids who dont obey the laws and are wreckless morons. IntegraB16 and I certainly arent, since he is as safe as street racing goes. I dont race, my friend does.

[97integrals]

Originally Posted by IntegraB16

Give me a break IntegraLs, Do you even know what ignorant means? Look it up, it means lacking knowledge. anyway.. i don't want to school you, so i will get to the point. Not everyone races on open roads and blows through stop signs. I'll have you know that where i go there is not a stop sign or cross road withen 2 miles. If we even see headlights we stop what were doing and pull over. So before you go off judging other people and the situations they are in, maybe you need to get all the facts. Because the way you are talking on here makes you look like a real ass hole. I'll be the first to admit that street racing isn't safe or the smartest thing to do. But you have no idea what goes on or how other people do things. I'm sorry about your brother, but keep your comments to yourself.

I did not mean to start a fight on here, but it really makes me mad to see people glamorize street racing. And I did mean to use the word ignorant because anyone who tries to justify street racing as OK is "lacking knowledge." Like you said don't judge people, please don't judge me either and assume I am some stupid child and throw around words that I don't know the meaning of. I don't care how many times you stop in the middle of a race, or how far out of town you are if you are not at a designated race track you a selfish and stupid. What you don't realize is that when you race illegally you give all automotive enthusiasts a bad name. I hope one day you will realize this and keep it on the track, I just pray that it doesn't take you killing an innocent person or yourself before you change. I have said all I care to on this subject, and am willing to let this thread die, I apologize to everyone if I was being a "real asshole" but I am very passionate about this topic.