Corvette C6 or STI + mods

[v10_viper]

Originally Posted by TatII

that is true to a point. a new Z06 would run with a lambo murcielago. however its also proven that a 400hp EVO FQ400 can run with a lambo. and with 60K you can do more handling mods, and more power then the EVO FQ400. weight balance very important for a RWD, however the AWD more then makes up some of the weight distribution disadvantages of the STi. but your also forgeting the fact is that hte EVO cost only 58K to build and it was only .2 tenths slower then first place which did have 700hp and did cost 120K to build which did have a near 50/50 weight distribution. if the standard C6 can beat the CTS-V then i will raise the BS flag. now for a Z06 C6, there is no official data on it so its hard to tell. also your acting like 6 piston calipers cost a fortune. you can get a set of 8 piston brembo for 5K. so fine the C6 Z06 have a 6 pot. then with the 30K saved for the STi buy some 8 pot to outdo your 6 pot. the STi's active center diff also is computer controlled to transfer tq to stop truer and straighter. you can't do that with a RWD, you'll only have a electronic brake force distribution system, while the STi has that along with its active center differential to help.

where the STi lacks in fundamental chassis design, it more then makes up for with turbos, large brakes, proper downforce, and electronically controlled AWD.

Actually the Evo in that comparison would have gotten a first place easily, as it's fastest times were not all in the same lap therefore fucking it over basically. Damn car mags, always have to find away to look biased. Although I really liked that issue, (Viper won didn't it??) I have to say I thought most of it was pretty shitty...

While the modded Sti would prob smoke the C6 I'd still take the Vette. Rear wheel drive and that much power is a lot more fun to me. Can't do smoke burnouts and donuts with all wheel drive. I'm sure with the money the suspension in the Sti would outperform the C6's even with the Z51 option and acceleration might be scary with just 10 grand in the Suby. If I had to take the Sti I'd prob throw 10G into the suspension/tires and 10G into the engine if thats possible, then most likely brakes too, I can't imagine putting all that money into the engine, replace turbo and intercooler, full exhaust and diff intake maybe, I guess i'm not aware of all the mods for this car but maybe go internally. I know this isn't part of the subject but give me 20 grand to throw on the Vette, now guess who's smokin??

[TatII]

of course the vette is going to be faster if you put 20K into it, and the STi has yet to proven itself yet at the drag strips. however the EVO with like 10K under the hood is a 10-9 second street car with full interior. can't argue with that, its also alot more safer to drive much much much faster on bumper highway surfaces taking corners. it just has that much grip. the Vette's chassis will most likely get upsetted by hugh expansion joints while cornering at over 140mph.

my friend's stock evo 8 took out a 400+ hp supra TT on the highway beasue it just couldn't keep up in the corners, the roads were too bumpy. same with the 350Z, top end wise they were suppose to be the same, but because of hte AWD, the Z was left behind so far, you almost couldn't see his headlights anymore.

for a street car, AWD owns. on a ribbon smooth track, a RWD is equal, if not more effective. i also happen to find drivng a AWD to be extremely fun becaseu its almost ludicris to see how fast you can take a corner. the average rule of thumb we developed is that for the corners with speed limit, you can usually go 2X then + another 15mph which is alot. and it always pulls is off without even a hint of tire squeel.

[v10_viper]

Yeah if it was Evo Vs. C6 i'd prob choose the Evo, but it's comparing it to a Subaru right?? I guess sidestepping the clutch at redline with AWD is probably pretty neck snapping in these cars and as far as grip for a corner it all depends on your tires, especially with the advanced systems out there such as the one in the new Acura RL.

[kinjox]

The C6 is a better car, no matter how much you put into a Subaru, its still only a Subaru. The reason Subaru doesn't build the car to specs that you all wish they would, is cause it would not last, the cars engine could not hold for the duration of the life of the car. If you have ever noticed that in all of the rallys, right after a race they are hoping underneath them and pretty much rebuilding the car. The Subaru's interior is cheap and has no options what so ever. It's loud to the point that at high speeds it's drowning out the radio. FYI a 1/4 mile time is not a true comparison for an overall car. If that's what your interested in, buy an old beater and buy the biggest motor you can get your hands on and you will blow the doors off of anyone.

Try this on for size....pull up anywhere in your subaru and I mean anywhere....low end of the age spectrum to the older guys and you will not get a second glance. Now do that in a Vette and you will always have a crowd.

[kman10587]

I think you're being too hard on the STi. Yes, the rally car motors don't last very long at all, but they are making WELL upwards of 500 ft-lb of torque and being driven as hard as possible over extremely bumpy surfaces. I don't know a motor on earth that would last very long under those conditions. Subarus are very well known for their reliability, and the STi should be able to hold 500 horsepower no sweat. Also, in most cases, an STi will get more attention than a Corvette, because they are a much rarer sight. Anyone who dismisses the STi as a ricer car with nothing more than a flashy bodykit and loud exhuast is totally ignorant of the World Rally Championship and the heritage of the cars in it. To take the hood scoop and rear spoiler off the STi would not only be a noticeable detriment to its performance, it would be insulting to the car's heritage. It's unfortunate that people feel the need to put those parts on 100 hp, FWD Honda Civics, but that doesn't change their usefulness when applied in the correct manner. Finally, the STi's interior may be stark, but I guarantee you that it is at least as good as the C6's, and probably more tightly put together.

And in case you're wondering, I give the C6 the nod in this comparison. I've always liked the STi, but I've always liked the Corvette as well, and it's simply the better car. I just think that you're not giving Subaru nearly enough credit where credit is due.

[crayzayjay]

No reviving old threads please

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=162405

or talking shit:

Originally Posted by kinjox

If you have ever noticed that in all of the rallys, right after a race they are hoping underneath them and pretty much rebuilding the car