Putting together a budget system, please help - Page 2

nfg2184 · #16 01-11-2005, 03:40 AM

Oh yea, Stang and sr20 are the awesomest guys ever. ;-)

bumpinstang77 · #17 01-11-2005, 04:05 AM

the Re component set is 165 shipped. You don't really need rear speakers unless you want to entertain people in the back. A good front stage should be all you need, but if you do want to get rear speakers you can either power them off your head unit or wire them parallel into your amp with the fronts.

RickwithaTbird · #18 01-11-2005, 04:41 AM

I personally wouldnt do without rear speakers. I dont have good subs, but I could have better ones if I wasnt concerned about good mids and highs so much. Im just not happy with 2 dimensional music. I like my mids and highs to come from left, right, up, down, and back and forth. (as well as sounding crisp).. and for subs, as long as they are loud and the different bass notes are distinguished, then Im satisfied. But I got off topic... what I was supposed to say is... in MY opinion rear speakers are important for the driver as well as a backseat passenger.

sr20de4evr · #19 01-11-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RickwithaTbird

I personally wouldnt do without rear speakers. I dont have good subs, but I could have better ones if I wasnt concerned about good mids and highs so much. Im just not happy with 2 dimensional music. I like my mids and highs to come from left, right, up, down, and back and forth. (as well as sounding crisp).. and for subs, as long as they are loud and the different bass notes are distinguished, then Im satisfied. But I got off topic... what I was supposed to say is... in MY opinion rear speakers are important for the driver as well as a backseat passenger.

Get a good front stage (preferably with time correction) and a decent substage. Then fade all the way forward and leave it that way for about a week, then fade back in the rears and see how much you like them now.

Rear speakers annoy the piss out of me now, if I'm riding with someone I can tolerate it, but if I'm driving they're off, no matter what car it is or what the system sounds like, they're off.

At the very least he can just power them off of the headunit, it will get them loud enough for some rear fill, but not loud enough to overpower the fronts.

nfg2184 · #20 01-11-2005, 10:54 AM

I'm starting to get worried now... every place I've checked does NOT have any adire subs... everything is on backorder/out of stock! Can someone PLEEEEASSEEE tell me where I can order the subs.

bumpinstang77 · #21 01-11-2005, 11:58 AM

There always going on and off of backorder give them some time.

nfg2184 · #22 01-11-2005, 12:10 PM

How much time? I was hoping to have this all delivered and installed before the end of this month?

Is there a similar sub I can get that is of equal quality and close to the same price?

Should I get some subs from RE audio instead, at the same time when I call to get the components? And if so which ones?... I don't want to wait a month or two to get some shiva's. Keep in mind I already paid for two PG amps... so whatever I get has to work well with those.

nfg2184 · #23 01-11-2005, 12:31 PM

Haha well I just hung myself, but I'm happy.

I picked up two .se series 12" subs, and the .re component system. Came to $535.00 shipped. So I've just spent $700+ in the last two days... and I still need a box and one more amp. I'm sure theres more stuff I need still, right? I remember seeing "amp kits", will I need one/two/three of those?

bumpinstang77 · #24 01-11-2005, 12:54 PM

well that's a good pick the only problem IS those pg amps won't work well with SE's because SE's are d4 you said you ordered two? IM me on AIM my s/n is rydemenmystang.

nfg2184 · #25 01-11-2005, 04:48 PM

In case anyone was wondering, and also to just make a breakdown for myself, I'm compiling a list of what I've bought so far. I'm hoping there won't be anything else I'll need.

$221.90 - Two PG amps, one will be used for my fronts, the other will be given to Bumpinstang in trade for a ported box that he's going to build for me (thanks stang!)

$244.00 - HIFONICS Brutus BX1500D Monoblock Amplifier Amp 1500W

$535.00 - My order from REaudio.com. Two .se 12" subs, .re components.

$27.89 - Four gauge amp install kit.

$22.90 - Eight gauge amp install kit.

Totaling $1,051.00 for my system thus far. This is gonna be sick.

nfg2184 · #26 01-11-2005, 05:08 PM

I'm not a genius... but I was studying the HIFONICS Brutus that I bought per reccomendation from Bumpinstang, he said it would be perfect for my two .se's. Anyway, I noticed that the specs were

1x500 Watts RMS into 4 Ohms
1x1,000 Watts RMS into 2 Ohms
1x1,500 Watts RMS into 1 Ohm

Usually when an amp can connect to more than one speaker it has a 2x250 watts type option doesn't it? I'm not going to have a problem with the connection am I?

RickwithaTbird · #27 01-11-2005, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg2184

I'm not a genius... but I was studying the HIFONICS Brutus that I bought per reccomendation from Bumpinstang, he said it would be perfect for my two .se's. Anyway, I noticed that the specs were

1x500 Watts RMS into 4 Ohms
1x1,000 Watts RMS into 2 Ohms
1x1,500 Watts RMS into 1 Ohm

Usually when an amp can connect to more than one speaker it has a 2x250 watts type option doesn't it? I'm not going to have a problem with the connection am I?

no man, you connect the subs to the same channel. Thats the beauty of having a 1 ohm stable monoblock amp. You can hook up both subs to one channel and wire them so the resistance is 1 ohm, thus giving you the greatest power output possible... in this case 1500 watts rms x 1, equaling 750 w rms to each speaker. A 2 channel amp would equate from 1x500 rms 4ohm, to 2x200 rms 4ohm, (typically). that really really sucks in comparison. Im not familiar with the voice coils of the subs you bought, but im sure bumpinstang will tell you exactly how to hook it up.

nfg2184 · #28 01-11-2005, 06:19 PM

Could someone please, in stupid terms, define an ohm?

bumpinstang77 · #29 01-11-2005, 07:57 PM

Ohms are the measure of electrical resistance in your subs. The SE's have dual 2 ohm coils meaning the coil is split in two with two seperate positives and negatives both being for ohms. According to ohm's law 4 4 ohm coils in parallel will yield a 1 ohm load which is then hooked up to the amp and it will supply the 1 ohm rated power of 1500 watts (brutus's are slightly overrated though, but a good 1350 shouldn't be a problem from it)

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