S14 VS Camaro SS

[S13wanabe]

Guys with sense, we all know a Z06 won't run that fast stock. It's time to just let it go. Mynismo, I love your car, and have no doubt that your #'s are accurate. I honestly don't have a clue as to why sr20det power acts like this, but he obviously loves the car enough to believe any beyond reasonable thing about it. Just to give everyone an idea, I had a 1991 Nissan Hardbody truck, I bored and stroked the motor, cut a hole in the muffler, and took my intake off. I told people it was stock, but then I ran low 15's all day long, beating Celica GTS's, SI's, and GTI's. Everyone I raced left thinking that stock piece of shit nissan trucks were fast as hell, or I was just an incredible driver. That was about 4 years ago. I have changed a lot since then, but people truly believed that my truck was stock and the muffler was just rusted.

[monooxide]

Wow this was just a nice little thread that was about a S14 and a Camaro SS then it came to Corvette Stock quarter times? wtf? i mean come on people...i want to hear shit like about 6000 will get you smoking that SS and stupid shit like that not arguing over which Muscle car has low 12 quarter times stock

[AWDSR20]

yeah................... agree!

[SR20DETpower]

hey fuck you mynismo ricer with your fucking automatic loving seat cover buying probably bought need for speed underground dick monger


boy when I get that lt1 transplanted into a car I will drive all the way up to cleveland and put a thousand bucks down on a race or call you a pussy, the sad thing is my motor build up probably cost less then it did for you to buy a used 240sx hatchback... you will get fucking smoked like a 10 dollar blunt bitch

625hp against your almighty lil 240hp will make everyone laugh at you and you will run away to live in montana you fagget




your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders

and its funny nobody else who had a z06 thought the guy was bullshitting.....


PEACE


*go ahead and ban me, don't want to be around a bunch of crybabies who get their panties in a bunch when someone talks about a fast v8*

[Ace$nyper]

lets just say IBTL

[alkemyst]

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

buying probably bought need for speed underground dick monger

buying a game is supposed to mean something about real world driving?

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

boy when I get that lt1 transplanted into a car I will drive all the way up to cleveland and put a thousand bucks down on a race or call you a pussy, the sad thing is my motor build up probably cost less then it did for you to buy a used 240sx hatchback... you will get fucking smoked like a 10 dollar blunt bitch

crap ass rebuild then I would suppose

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

625hp against your almighty lil 240hp will make everyone laugh at you and you will run away to live in montana you fagget



your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders

Not as much as everyone is laughing now...think outside the 1/4 mile fool...some crotch rocket (with only 4 cylinders) would blow your doors off still for less than either car...you should just let it go. You are spewing hypocracy...1) your handle refers to a 4 cylinder and 2) the same could be said about your mullet engine by the V10, 12 and 16 crowd. I just hope to god it's a real LT1 and not some pull from a 70's 'CAMERO'.

Facts are you are delusional what V8's do and do not. As many people out there with pipe dreams on RB swaps and KA-T's there are an equal number of Mustang, camaro and Vette guys posting about their 500, 600, 800HP build ups that never happen.

With a V8 (purely from a mechanical point of view, nothing about weight balance and size)...you are dealing with almost all internals doubling. That adds both cost and reciprocating mass, hence why a 5L V8 everything else equal is not making double the power of a 2.5L I4/V8. Also gas consumption is increased.

Once a 2.4L is turbo'd for all intents and purposes it's now approaching the 'size' of a small V8...you will run into the limits of the chassis before you run into the limits of the power.

All cylinders really do is create more smoothness and help excessive bore sizes/strokes.

[S13wanabe]

Sr20detpower, you seriously need to cool it. Z06's are fast, that's it we're done. We won't give 1/4 mile times because there is no way of being completely accurate. Internal mods are easy to hide and very possible in a motor like the 350 (very easy to mod). I honestly don't think a Z06 is as fast as you claim. I go to drags all the time and have never seen a stock one come close to the times you are claiming it ran. Like I said the best I've seen is either 12.54 or 12.53, I can't remember exactly. And don't start bagging on me about being a Chevy hater. I have a 1964 Chevy pickup that I'm restoring. I just finished puting the blower on the 572 crate motor. My dad and I have spent some big bucks, but we will be well over 1,000hp. I also have a 1970 350ci motor from a Corvette that I will probably build later down the line. Now one question for you is, are you puting an LT1 in your 240SX? If you are, I would like a price for everything you do, including labor, parts, motor, and specialty work, like welding. After that we will see who has the faster car for the money. Quit talking shit to Mynismo. He has a proven fast car. It's a real nice swap, and his car is well balanced.

[mynismo]

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders

from what i remember you dont even have ONE cylinder.

this guy doesn't even have a car people, and he talks all this trash.


b.s. .....

[SR20DETpower]

my family owns a shop, I do everything myself or recruit help of my employees.. shops open 5 days a week, I usually work 7, even on thanksgiving week... about the only thing we don't do is professional paint jobs, or tires.

the cost to swap that engine into about any car that it will physically fit would only cost a couple hundred dollars at the absolute most, the rest is all in blood, sweat, and fun

when your taking engines and transmissions out of dozens of cars each week doing this kind of work really isn't hard, its actually pretty basic

I can probably do sr20 swaps in an afternoon, but believe it or not their is more money to be made with regular stock maintenance work.

[S13wanabe]

True that. There is much more money in basic maintanace and work on regular cars than in performance modding and engine swaps. All I ask is that when you do price it out, include that standard labor cost at your shop. Most people don't have the knowledge or tools to do a swap like that. The sr20det swap is easy and doesn't take a lot of time, it's easy to mod, and doesn't have too much torque to keep the wheels spinning all day long. It may very well be the more cost effective way to make a fast drag car when comparing it to an LT1 swap. Plus traction is going to be an issue with an LT1.

[SR20DETpower]

im not worried about potential traction, cause they make slicks that will handle WAY more then 600hp......its how much tire can you mount under the car lol... time for the sawzall or cut off wheel, wish I had a damn plasma cutter... the car it goes into won't have a standard rear end, it will be all custom with chevy running gear to handle that torque.... basically what im saying is with some modification I can probably fit big enough slicks to handle the power easily.

sure you could run it on a stock r200 rear diff but it won't last as long and the axels themselves are not as strong... pull the axels from a GM 14 bolt and compare them to R200 axels lol. it sucks when you blow the rear diff out the cover on a gut wrenching launch, byproduct of down low torque...

I dunno a lt1 will make more power then a sr20det, it will make moderate to highish power A LOT cheaper, hell I saw a lt-1 engine for sale for 350 bucks one day, that is one hell of a deal, it would probably need some more machine work but figure around 700 for that, so for aroung 3000 and car or less you could have a 625hp engine in a 240sx, of course you still have to factor in things like upping the drivetrain but you would have to do that with a sr20det anyways with lesser power.... factor in the cost of a stock sr20 clip alone and the lt-1 already looks way better, then factor in modifiing the sr20... turbo, manifold, ecu, injectors, pistons, rods, cams, intake manifold... you know the drill... its going to be WAY more money for less power guranteed. Now this is just for ultimate speed, dunno about handling, someone who professionally swaps ls1 engines into fd3s rx7's and races them says it handles better then stock, but the all aluminum ls1 weighs less then the all iron lt1 from the impala.... that is a bad comparison though because believe it or not rotary engines can be heavy, maybe the actual housings are small and light but they also have accessories a piston engine doesn't have that adds a lot of weight.. I've looked into swapping it into a fc3s a lot, it might be a better option at handling more power then a 240sx IMHO. basically adding a v8 won't upset handling much at all, especially if you factor in mounting positions and engine setup with chassis balance in mind.

also heres some pics of rides

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[TatII]

i have no clue you were still into doing a 240 project. i thought you scraped that along time ago when you got your impala SS.

[publicenemy137]

wait so now you're planning to swap a V8 into a 240? If I was to make an all drag car, I'd swap an ls1 into a 240 also if I had the knowledge.

[AWDSR20]

man..... 240 are nice for what they are, balanced and nimble (need to upgread the power, suspention, but keep it BALANCED)......
why swap the V8 into it? anyway to each there own... i would like to see it!

ps: i heard of a small block shevy swap in an old datsun??? maybe the 24 is the same idea?

[logik23]

Half the 24-6-80Zs out there have V8s in them. There's a V8 powered FC that drifted better then most cars at Drift Mania, so handling is good.