ZO6 vs '05 C6

[phillyx2000]

2006 Z07 will be a 7.0L engine 512 hp underated to 500 hp.. it will also have a ram air setup Z07 will also handle better then the C6 and Z06's and will top out at 200 MPH stock.

LS2 blocks though do have a really nice manifold... you won't be able to use the LS7 manifold on your blocks though like you were able to swap a LS6 manifold to a LS1 because the LS7 is such a larger motor.. but they are having LS2 manifold setups with 90mm Throttle Bodies either way the next 7 years is going to be having some sexy cars that will blow our mind's away.. we're now entering a whole new level of Standard Performance can't wait to see everything.

[klint02dodge]

well going back to the corvettes that must have been a sweet race wish i would have seen it.

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by JohnC24

the best vette would HAVE been ANY vette with a 454 engine

not as far as stock 1/4 mile times are concerned


50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/65
2 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.36 CD 11/65
3 1969 Road Runner [email protected] 440 Six BBL 390 4-Speed 4.10 SS 6/69
4 1970 Hemi Cuda [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/69
5 1970 Chevelle SS454 [email protected] 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.55 CC 11/69
6 1969 Camaro [email protected] 427 ZL1 430 4-Speed 4.10 HC 6/69
7 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.70 HC 5/68
8 1970 Road Runner [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
9 1970 Buick GS Stage I [email protected] 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
10 1968 Corvette 427 [email protected] L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.55 CD 6/68

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by phillyx2000

2006 Z07 will be a 7.0L engine 512 hp underated to 500 hp.. it will also have a ram air setup Z07 will also handle better then the C6 and Z06's and will top out at 200 MPH stock.

LS2 blocks though do have a really nice manifold... you won't be able to use the LS7 manifold on your blocks though like you were able to swap a LS6 manifold to a LS1 because the LS7 is such a larger motor.. but they are having LS2 manifold setups with 90mm Throttle Bodies either way the next 7 years is going to be having some sexy cars that will blow our mind's away.. we're now entering a whole new level of Standard Performance can't wait to see everything.

You realise that the 427 motors that are built in Corvettes (C5s) now, like in a Mallot C5 are based off of the LS1 itself.

It's the same motor basically as the C5R, a 427 small block. So, it's the same size physically.

[phillyx2000]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

You realise that the 427 motors that are built in Corvettes (C5s) now, like in a Mallot C5 are based off of the LS1 itself.

It's the same motor basically as the C5R, a 427 small block. So, it's the same size physically.

yes but the the cubes and everything else is off.. 350 is the LS1 and yes i know it isn't exactly 350 cubes LS7 is a 427.. they use a much larger manifold on the LS7 which does not fit with the LS1 or LS6

which is why people are going with the LS2 manifold swap now instead of a LS6 swap.

[-The Stig-]

May I ask how it is you know all this?

The final specs of the C6 Z06 haven't been released yet. It's still all speculation. Especially the motor being used.

[phillyx2000]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

May I ask how it is you know all this?

The final specs of the C6 Z06 haven't been released yet. It's still all speculation. Especially the motor being used.

just a couple of forums i go on to with locals.. they aren't exactly positive but they're 95% positive.

[JohnC24]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

not as far as stock 1/4 mile times are concerned

does that mean they are slow or has it been tried.

[fredjacksonsan]

Um, this is a really interesting discussion, but I'm disappointed that Z28 Drifter hasn't posted his pics of his 490/317hp car with the flipping off AF sign under the hood. I mean, c'mon!

And Carrnutt, where is that sculpture?

Moo!

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by Z28 Drifter

Just today I witness some crazy sh*t on the highway coming home a ZO6 vs a C6.IM behind this ZO6 wishing my camaro had the power to keep up

... I thought you had 490 HP? That would be plenty to walk a Z06.

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by Igovert500

I simply don't believe you because in my eyes you lack any credibility what-so-ever.

Originally Posted by Igovert500

Trust is like your virginity...you lose it once and your F**ked

Originally Posted by Igovert500

Every story you have just seems to have discrepancies.

Yes, yes & yes.

[2000LS1Z28]

Originally Posted by RedNeck383

Ok, Well you're right about weight. The C6 is a bit more portly.

'04 Z06 3116lbs
'05 Z51 3288lbs

But I'd venture to say you're wrong about power up top. It's got better power delivery all through it's power band. It's got a 172lb handy cap. And it's only .2 seconds slower in the 1/4. It's got better power period. That extra 10 cubic inches helps out.

Considering the 172lb weight difference, it only stops 4ft farther than the Z06. I guess those larger brakes help. Not to mention it turns better even with it's extra gurth. Not to mention with slightly smaller tires width wise.

The '05 Z51 has basically the same gear ratios, except for a minor difference in 5th and 6th gears. But glides through the air much cleaner than the '04 Z06.



'05 Z51
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.6 at 114.0

Top Speed 186
Lateral acceleration 0.98g

Gear ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.71:1
6th 0.57:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front Brakes 13.4 in. ventilated discs
Rear Brakes 13.0 in. ventilated discs
70 - 0 mph 166
60 - 0 mph 119

Tires
front 245/40 ZR18
rear 285/35 ZR19


'04 Z06
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.7 at 112.1

Top Speed 171
Lateral acceleration 0.97

Gear Ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.84:1
6th 0.56:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front - 12.6 in. vented discs
Rear - 11.8 in. vented discs
70 - 0 mph 162
60 - 0 mph 116

Tires
front 265/40 ZR17
rear 295/35 ZR18


C6 best Vette yet? I personally believe so. I'm patiently awaiting the C6 Z06. Muwahah... that's gonna pwn.

But, I can't afford either car. C5 or C6... But if I were to land a good paying job. I wouldn't look over a C5 Z06. Still badass cars, plus with the C6 out. The used car market for C5 Z06s has brought the price down slighty.

Ahh did you post two different magazine ads????? That's one of the slowest times i've seen posted for the Z06, and one of the fastest for the C6. I have an issue of both Car and Driver and Motor Trend where the Z06 traps at 114-117 mph. I've also been to the track on several occassions, and can vouch for the Z06 having a faster trap speed. Don't be too one sided Matty, the Z06 is still the better car thus far. I'm sure the newer iteration of the Z06 will be faster, but not the base corvette.

[-The Stig-]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

Don't be too one sided Matty, the Z06 is still the better car thus far. I'm sure the newer iteration of the Z06 will be faster, but not the base corvette.

I'm not being one sided.

The C6 is the better car. It can do everything the Z06 can within a few tenths of a second (1/4), a few feet (braking), plus it has the higher topspeed and it does it all for less.

It can do everything the Z06 can within 2%. That 2% if what you'd normally see posted in different magazines. From different drivers. Different conditions.

It's safe to say, the C6 Z51 is basically a Z06 in new skin... but for cheaper.


C6 Coupe vs C5 Z06 1/4 video Right Click, Save As

[huckleberrydude]

The Z06 is faster. I own one and have raced a C6.
the new C6 Z06 will most likely be 450bhp and be a huge price jump.
I've got a big christmas list that will easily put my car in the low 11s on street tires and all for under 40grand. I can't wait to whip up on a new Z06.

[huckleberrydude]

also the Z06 is a better track car that just happens to do well in a straight line. out of every car under 100grand, the viper may be the only car that could post better track times and that would easily be remedied for under 5grand.