is it cutout on my Jaytona?

[rwood13]

why would you want to wire around the cat?

[speed_freak]

it suppossedly turns off your little warnin light in the gauge panel if you have taken the cat. off....i was just wandering if anybody had ever heard or seen of such.

[rwood13]

personally I don't, get a high flow cat, do your part for clean air, when you have kids you will understand my stance, I want my to be able to breath when they are older

[speed_freak]

personally about 5 months ago my cat was dented when i slid over an embankment while rounding up cattle...so as a temporary fix i just tacked a piece of pipe in ...im awaiting on shipment of a magnaflow cat currently.......and as far as future kids , do you really think a handful of cars here and there that dont have cats. is really an issue when compared to the people producing our fuel...take for instance exxon which turns out more pollution in a day than the entire car world....so what difference does it really make if i dont have a cat...and besides you drive a 1989 spirit according to your profile, which in my opinion is quite ironic if you are concerned about your kids welfare... and more than likely my kids will never have to worry about it such a dilema...and if the time does come, technology is advancing so fast that it would not be an issue

[Geeko]

"let the future deal with it" eh? what a stupid idea. we ARE the future, to people 30 years ago... and we're dealing with the remainders of DDT, nuclear waste, millions of tons of garbage in landfills... yeah, we're taking care of it all right.

and as far as future kids , do you really think a handful of cars here and there that dont have cats. is really an issue when compared to the people producing our fuel...

YES. every. little. bit. hurts. If you were the only car that didn't have a catalytic convertor on it, it wouldn't matter much. but there are millions of cars on the road, and there are certainly plent of people who think "meh, one car can't hurt". one car doesn't hurt. but 1 car times ten thousand people DOES hurt. and as much as you'd like to think you live in your own little world, what you do affects everyone.

take for instance exxon which turns out more pollution in a day than the entire car world....

Reference please? and not some guy's website, but a .edu, or better yet a book reference to these numbers? I'm sure Exxon does turn out quite a bit of toxic waste every day- but they are also subject to rather strict EPA requirements that restrict what they can pump into the air.

besides you drive a 1989 spirit according to your profile, which in my opinion is quite ironic if you are concerned about your kids welfare

i don't see how him driving a family car has anything to do with his kid's welfare? a 4-door spirit is a relatively safe family car, that's reasonably good on gas milage, and easy to drive in bad weather. sounds like a good choice to me. You, however, ostensibly have a 2003 Dodge Ram, and a 1973 Chevy 2500 (25? i thought they hadn't added the 00 to them yet in '73). while i can't talk about the '73 much, except that i'm sure it guzzles gas, the other chevy is big, unsafe at speed in bad weather or good, and very fuel-inefficient.

and more than likely my kids will never have to worry about it such a dilema...and if the time does come, technology is advancing so fast that it would not be an issue

see the beginning of this post. and please, for what little hope your kids have, pay attention.

and one more, from a previous genious post...

is that really an issue considering no one has had anything to say, in about 5 days.......and since there was already a forum about cats. , why not just throw it in there...

oookay. Numbah one! this thread is NOT about cats, a cat, or even anything relating directly to the exhaust on a car. Numbah two! you contridicted yourself by saying that your question should be in the forum about catalytic converters, and then put it in Dodge > Nonspecific... i believe the answer here is self-explanitory.

Before you write back some middle-school flame of a reply, think about these things. Think long and hard... and then go put your hair out, your head is on fire.


*written because slantsixness isn't around to do it.*

[rwood13]

Go Geeko !! Agree 100%, I wonder if speed freak feels that way about litter ...... but I do want to know the point about my Spirit?

[speed_freak]

haha...what a bunch of tree huggin hippies

[Geeko]

Originally Posted by speed_freak

haha...what a bunch of tree huggin hippies

sorry, but you're a fucking idiot. some of us would just rather have the place still around after they're gone.

[rwood13]

speed freak, when you change your oil, do you just pour it down the drain? So tell me the problem with my Spirit?

[slantsixness]

We're off the subject again.
Is it cutout on his Jaytona or what?

I've been gone for awhile overseas and got back to see this darn thread still going.

Hmmm what's all this hippie and tree hugger SH!T?

I agree with pollution control, but not the "pollution control" that they have imposed on cars. There's really no point in reducing emissions more on Gasoline fueled vehicles equipped with catalyst systems. You can only go so far and reduce the emissions so much before fuel economy and power suffer the consequences of pollution controls. Alternative fuel vehicles have a better chance, but fuel cell electric vehicles are what has the best chance to keep us breathing and living here without the greenhouse gas effects, or just dropping dead and leaving the earth to the cockroaches...

Now, with that said, I will say that I have 1 "gross polluter", namely a '72 winnebago motorhome (a resto project). It's getting a fuel injection system from a 93 B250 Van, with the Cat and all the pollution goodies. The block, however is going to remain a 72 318-3 truck motor with the forged crank to avoid the "14,000LB vehicle Vs. wimpy crank syndrome" that's common in later 5.2's.

Now, if I could only find a couple extra turbos and some pipe.....

Slantsixness

Does that make me a hippie?

Hey, one more reply and we'll be at 100 for this thread! (the most replies of any Mopar thread at AF....) We should get an award! Ha!

[Geeko]

heh. how's the FI changeover going? i've heard that those can be "fun".


"fun" meaning a brain-wasting pain in the ass.


i'm no tree hugger, but we should really leave the emissions stuff as intact as possible on our cars (unless you're doing something to REDUCE emissions.)

[slantsixness]

FI in the slant 6 is done and works perfectly as does the garrett. I have some fuel delivery crap to deal with, so the boost is lower than expected (runing out of fuel at around 3200 RPM under load). It's a sick sound, as I listen to the turbo wind up, to hear the fuel starve and the slow droning turbo unwind... wah. Need new fuel pump....

FI changeover in the motorhome will be without turbos, but It'll be next spring until that gets done.

Slantsixness

Oh, I sold the twin turbo Dart GT and the '93 DOHC 2.5L Mexican Turbo. Had to make room for the motorhome. I got more than I expected from the car and the two motors. Almost broke even!