you could be sleeping in a Vortex

[dirtydx]

schizophrenia is heriditary??? damn even crazy ppl have girlfriends.



Gotti.

The specialist called the lines Curry and Heartmann nets, which is after the founders. A vortex is where the two intersect. I hope you can understand.

[Dustin_S]

How come Jimi hendrix can't come back from the grave, but this thread can!?

Oh well, Toksin's stylish hate makes it all worth it.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Fully_Sick

p.s: people in europe do this? since when, never seen that shit,

Trust me they don't, that is just a bs line to make it sound better.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by dirtydx

Gotti.

The specialist called the lines Curry and Heartmann nets, which is after the founders. A vortex is where the two intersect. I hope you can understand.

yeah i understand... they're water veins, i guess where water runs it has some affect on you.

I dont think it causes all that shit like scitzofrenia(sp) but it might affect your health slightly over long periods of time. So might aswell not sleep where they are.

[Mr.Corolla]

Originally Posted by Marc-OS

My grandpa found his well using "witch sticks", it was way cool

And what would u define as "witch sticks" being as water viens have nothing to do with Wicca. I practise wicca and i havn't come across anything about water viens in my studies. Or have u been watching too many movies?

[dirtydx]

witch sticks is just a layman term... slang.... not a reference to wicca.

so u guys still wearing big pointy hats and riding broomsticks?








jk

[knorwj]

I dunno about all this stuff about affecting your health and stuff but divining rods as I know them do actually show roughly where there is underground water movement.

As Gotti said try making some with a pair a coat hangers then walk outside and I bet you wherever there is water underground (such as a well or septic tank) you will see the rods move together and then after you move away they will separate again. I dunno how it works but it does. somebody did tell me once that it has to do with magnetism and how when water is flowing the electrons create some kind of magnetic feild that is detectable by the metal rods held loosely in your hands. It is is quite easy to locate underground water pipe etc. using this method.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by knorwj

I dunno about all this stuff about affecting your health and stuff but divining rods as I know them do actually show roughly where there is underground water movement.

As Gotti said try making some with a pair a coat hangers then walk outside and I bet you wherever there is water underground (such as a well or septic tank) you will see the rods move together and then after you move away they will separate again. I dunno how it works but it does. somebody did tell me once that it has to do with magnetism and how when water is flowing the electrons create some kind of magnetic feild that is detectable by the metal rods held loosely in your hands. It is is quite easy to locate underground water pipe etc. using this method.

Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.

why dont you try it yourself instead of critisizing... You cant affect the direction where the coat hangers go by holding them loosely, you can feel them move bythemselves

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Gotti

why dont you try it yourself instead of critisizing... You cant affect the direction where the coat hangers go by holding them loosely, you can feel them move bythemselves

Scenario:I give one of my friends a sugar pill and tell him its the best strenght enhancer in the world. When he will reach the gym his performance will be significantly higher.

Does that mean the sugar pill enhanced his performance?

[lazysmurff]

lets hear it for the placebo effect!!!!

hope i didnt give away your punchline...

[knorwj]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

Do you realise how much you are interfering with that experiment by holding the rods in your hand. Not to mention the fact that you have been told what to expect from the experiment.(why do you think farmaceutical companies use double blind tests).


Now lets see any of you bring actual proof from an acredited scientific journal.

well I use them as a tool for finding underground water... so yes I do know what to expect from using them, just as I know what to expect when I pick up any other tool such as a power drill or hand saw etc. Does this effect the outcome of using them? maybe. I need to know how to use them properly just as with the saw or drill in order to get the needed outcome.

Now seeing as I have been able to find many a septic tank/ underground spring etc. that I had no prior knowledge of their location using these rods, well I just don't see how I could affect the outcome, or make the outcome biased in anyway. If say I did know where something was and then "found" it with the rods I would completely agree with you.

As far as proof, i'm not really sure what kind of proof you are looking for? are you doubting the fact that they work? How they work? or are you still refering to the original "vortex gonna eat your baby" theory from the beginning... as far as that one... well i don't believe that one either.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

Scenario:I give one of my friends a sugar pill and tell him its the best strenght enhancer in the world. When he will reach the gym his performance will be significantly higher.

Does that mean the sugar pill enhanced his performance?

thats a COMPLETELY different thing... you cant compare a tool to medecine. Taking a sugar pill psychologically affects you and makes you think it will work, and your mind has a lot of power to change the outcome. Using the rods you'll feel them moving by themselves, you're not making them move and your minds not making them move.

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the rod looks like this |.................(ignore the periods) now tell me, if you're holding the rods loosely in your fists, like you're holding a gun and keeping your hands still, how could you make them cross, start going towards each other? If you move your hands, they're just going to go closer or farther apart, but they're not going to rotate. If you tried hard to do it you could, but if you just hold them in your hands loosely and keep your hands still how could you influence the result?? You cant... so your arguement is pointless

I'm not going to say anymore about this... cause you'll never know unless you try it yourself

[Neutrino]

Ok then perfect you guys can win a million dollars. - Not joking.

The success of dowsers doesn't surprise the people who know the most about finding underground water, hydrogeologists for the United States Geological Survey (USGS). They point out that the United States is so water-rich you can get wet drilling just about anywhere, if you drill deep enough. Far harsher criticism of dowsing and dowsers comes from outside the mainstream scientific community. Two organizations, the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP), http://www.csicop.org/si, and the James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF), http://www.randi.org, are actually working to discourage the practice, which they both dismiss as paranormal nonsense. To make their point that dowsing is a sham each has staged demonstrations in which dowsers were asked to find buried pipes. Dowsers did no better than the laws of chance predict. JREF is so confident of its position it promises to pay $1.1 million to anyone who can prove dowsing works.

You can can send me photos of your brand new Ferraris and I'll believe you. Mercedes Sl65 will work just as fine.



Here i'll even give you the contact information.

For more information on the James Randi Paranormal Challenge see www.randi.org, or send e-mail to [email protected] or regular mail to

JREF
201 S.E. 12th St (E. Davie Blvd)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316-1815
U.S.A.

Sweet you guys are going to be milionaires.