Accursed EVOs

[Sixthgeargod]

Just as in real life there are time skills such as auto cross and there are battle skills. My friend runs in an FD when we run on akina he cannot touch my times. But when we race the factor of another car trying to pass or get around you changes things very quickly. I am not very good in battle and if my friend gets infront of me he tends to mess me up because when an FD takes the line it tends to take up more space in the turn than an 86 becuase it is a grip car in the game.however i know of someone who runs a 3.6 time in a AE86(fully tunned)and i raced him on akina in a STOCK 86. he is not as good at times but is better at battles, but i handed him is @$$ on that run and he did not mess up that much. So explain that if you can. other than SKILL MATTERS, NO MATTER WHAT. and its called respect to cars and drivers on this game. if the other person is going faster they should be able to pass. If your going for the easy win, then your just being cheap. Just like people who choose rain and are in evo's, just to beat on weaker people.(not everyone who has evos does this) And that is kinda dumb because in this game the celica and the Skylines are all AWD. Any moron knows that cars are best in dry but when...... you know what i have a hard time believing that people here dont know what they are doing and dont see you just flaughnting your own ignorance. Im sure you know what your doing by playing an arcade game but you sound like you race with no honor or respect. Cars have a lot to do with stuff but look at layla. An FC is a highly capable car. Its the only rotory to win at le mans. But in this game its true performance and acceleration is hindered. i dont care what initial d says and FC should be able to waste an evo in hairpins. lets not also forget that in initial d ryosuke doesnt really do drifting. He does linegrip and four wheel drifts just like an evo. The FC has the advantage of not wearing all his tires down in the drift and turns. An evo does.

Besides that is what makes initial D so cool. An outdated AE86 Whips up on a bunch of highly modified and superior setup cars and wins. Also the FC of the takahashi brothers. We havent seen if tak really beat him. i dont think he did. or it was a tie.

Layla, by the way my friend is in the same boat as you, he drives the FD. Its his favorite and it kills him that he isnt running higher than alot of other people. He is still better than most and has a high battle level but i understand.

[drftk1d]

awd cars have an advantage in cornering since they have the grip of all 4 wheels, it isnt really made to drift (well for that matter, no car was designed to drift, but thats a whole nuther discussion). also, the FC was never in le mans, what you are thinking about is the 4 rotor 787B race car (which pwnd le mans and banned 4 rotor engines). Maybe you think that the fc is really that fast, but it isnt (although i do agree its underrated in this game).

Can someone else explain this to me: Why does everyone consider the rx-8 to be such a cheap car? I used it since i thought i'd be a good choice for a downhill racing style game (i made my first card with it last night).

[Sixthgeargod]

Sorry yeah thats what i meant i think i deleted that part accidentaly. The RX-8 is only considered cheap on i think shomaru. I dont use it but my buddy says that it can turn better on avg then some other cars. Its an acceleration thing. I personally think that the only cheap car in the whole game was the DC2 in VER2. The RX-8 just has some advantages in the begining, but one all is done to the cars it kinda flatens out and becomes fair.

[AErrorist]

I just can't bring myself to pick an AWD car. I might try an FD, they pull on my SilEighty pretty hard on Legend of the Street mode, but computers make programmed mistakes, so I dunno. The day I pick a AWD car is the day right before I pick a FWD car, because I have truely gone insane. If it comes down to it, I may pick up the R32 GT-R and just grip race and pwn the EVO driving losers.

[duluth2006]

didn't i say battle and time attack are completly different? i said that if someone gets infront its easier to block due to lower speeds and the person in back useually screws up more, due to lack of view.

i think you got this game backwards you should be taking the same line as the fd (going to the outside) BUT you don't if you take it at a slower speed, which it sounds like your doing. so to remedy this, take the turn faster but like i said, how are you going to pass on the rx-7 that takes the in-line and blocks on the straights?

3'06 isn't a good time even for a stock trueno, let alone a full tuned one. full tune could knock down three seconds, so if he is hitting 3'06 AT full tune, he needs to work some more on akina to be considered basic at it. if he takes the turns slower and doesn't hit one wall, doesn't take the rhod gutter, he should be able to at LEAST get 3'03-4.

well, if you beat him so much on akina, what turn? did he take it outside or inside... did he pass on the straights? was boost on? did he take you off the line, or no? those things are most important to know when saying you beat someone. for example, let's take two equally skilled players, put them in the same car, and have them race... the person who gets the better start-interval (due to the first curve of the track) would be in front (depends on stage) but who would win? the person who gets IN the lead first... unless what? he takes an outer-line and gets passed on the inside. hence blocking up to 10km/h slower than your opponent is pretty easy (since all you have to do is watch your rear view mirror.)

racing with no honor? please, only people who i EVER hear complain about blocking is those who lose because they don't block or because they GET blocked. seriously, its a game and like a majority of others... i play to win and i am not gonna give up my money to someone else and just let them pass. if its so unfair, leave boost on... if sega didn't intend for people to block, they woulda made some sorta negativeity TO blocking or made ghost cars. also i have a question for you... since you consider blocking unfair, that must mean you know what happens when someone blocks the whole way and how much skill that requires, right?

the rx-8 isn't considered cheap due to the fact that others can beat it pretty easily, what cars? the one's with a faster start like the GDB... not to mention it has some tracks where it sucks, mostly akina. but if people do consider it cheap, its probably due to the reasons i listed below.

in version 2 the battle system was different, you had something that held you back from their bumper + the speeds were higher so passing was a LOT easier. people really call the dc2 cheap for no reason.. i mean it faulted in enough stages as the rx-8 (myogi, usui, and akagi wet) and cars were rated better on akagi and akina... my point is, put the rx-8 in version 2 and people would call that car cheap. but then again, nothing prevents others from using the dc2 and it really got a bad name due to all the noobs tuning it up and racing the "regular" players to stages where their car is underpowered.

to get to my point, if version 2 had version 3's battle system/speeds, dc2 wouldn't be considered so cheap. if the rx-8 was in version 2, it'd probably be considered cheap.

[Sixthgeargod]

Okay the top time in akina for the US is 2.57. I can do it in 3.03. Thats not bad for some one that only plays maybe one night in a month. I have a real project car that im working on. So all said and done im sure i could take you to school in this game. i can get in the top 20 in any area. even so its just a game. if you care to get into any real car and you feel froggy, then hop. ill spank you like a four year old at k-mart. The trueno is not a easy car to drive in this game either. Not like some other cars. i can see you defined blocking to an art. that in itself says enough. Im not going to banter back and forth with you. Its clear you are highly opinionated and cannot conceed to being wrong, and thats okay. The DC2 is cheap because it could hit walls and not get penalized for it like the ther cars due to its turbo. Check on any online forum for Initial d. It was a glitch in the game. The penalizing code would get overidden with the boost one it reached its certain climbing piont on the tach. look anywhere its a fact. Dont take this personally but I dont have anything against you, However if you must continue with your backwards thinking and win at all cost attitude thats your perogative. But dont be surpirsed when other people call you on it and say you are full of it. Or dismiss you as a respectable opponent. ive raced vipers to BMW's and im far from being good, but i know what im doing.

[Layla's Keeper]

Dear god, did all of you just completely ignore my post or something?

Unless you are not aware, I am the FUCKING MODERATOR in this Initial D forum. I have told you to stop bickering. THAT MEANS STOP BICKERING!

This thread is locked. Duluth, Sixthgeargod, if I catch you two arguing incessantly once more you're both out for two weeks.