under 150K supercar comparo

[kman10587]

280 HP doesn't cut it in the world of super cars. Not to mention the 220-something torque.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by burntrice087

The NSX has the most refined VTEC system in any Honda/Acura model......simply put it Valve timing is the replacement for displacement and thats why the NSX's 280HP give it a distinct advantage over the non-VTEC cars. whats it lacks in accerlation,it dominates over the other cars in handling and reliability

Somehow I doubt that. Maybe when the car came out but not anymore. I would be willing to bet that the I Vtec in the RSX type S and R is more advanced.


And it doesnt dominate at all over the other cars. Last time i checked in a BM video the Gallardo beat the NSX-R. So a Gallardo would destroy a regular NSX.

Same goes for the modena, it seems not to be doing to well in certain BM tracks but it did manage to beat the NSX R on the higher speed Fuji track. And again the regular NSX is far slower than the type R.

[aznxthuggie]

aw crap i woulda hoped the nsx type r would beat a modena.. o wells lol

also in that video i think i saw it.. the nsx r was doing well until it "overheated" right? im pretty sure it woulda taken the modena when "gan-san" or whatever u call him.. drove it was pretty quick.. im sure 1 or 2 more corners the hp difference between the 2 cars wouldn't have mattered the way he took the turns

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by aznxthuggie

aw crap i woulda hoped the nsx type r would beat a modena.. o wells lol


also in that video i think i saw it.. the nsx r was doing well until it "overheated" right? im pretty sure it woulda taken the modena when "gan-san" or whatever u call him.. drove it was pretty quick.. im sure 1 or 2 more corners the hp difference between the 2 cars wouldn't have mattered the way he took the turns

well it did beat the modena on one of the tracks. I think is Tsukuba, the 360 seems to do particularly poorly on that one track. It could be the driver or its gear ratios/suspeion might be particularly unsuited for it. The modena seems to like much better the higher speed fuji.


I'll watch the video again to make sure, but the modena was already gaining on it before the overheating.

[aznxthuggie]

yea probably... eh i kinda hope honda will bring the hp of the nsx up to match its competition (being a $90k car n all) but they're too dam environmental and economical

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by aznxthuggie

yea probably... eh i kinda hope honda will bring the hp of the nsx up to match its competition (being a $90k car n all) but they're too dam environmental and economical

Well the plan was to build a new one but, they did offcially scrap it. I guess they did not want to repeat the financial disaster of the first one.

[aznxthuggie]

yea o wellz.. o yea kinda off topic.. but how does the 430 compare to the 360? (hopefully) better? worse?

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by aznxthuggie

yea o wellz.. o yea kinda off topic.. but how does the 430 compare to the 360? better? (hopefully) worse?

Some people might not like the design but from a performance standpoint is better in all regards.

Folloow the link in my sig, it will take you to the F430 section. I posted a bunch of articles there with details about it.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by burntrice087

The NSX has the most refined VTEC system in any Honda/Acura model......simply put it Valve timing is the replacement for displacement and thats why the NSX's 280HP give it a distinct advantage over the non-VTEC cars. whats it lacks in accerlation,it dominates over the other cars in handling and reliability

I get so sick of hearing people say stupid crap like this. There is NO replacement for displacement. It is a simple matter of physics. Not a turbo, supercharger, N2O, technology, tuning, and not even your stupid Vtec can replace displacement.

This is quite simple, airflow equals power, and the more air you displace the more power your engine will produce. Say for example we add a turbo kit to the NSX and then say wee add that same turbo kit to the Viper. The Viper will yield higher gains than the NSX will.

Airflow equals power, that is all there is to it. The more you can move, the faster you can move it with the least resistance heat, the more power you will produce. The bigger your engine, the better your exhaust and intake, the more airflow you will have.

[burntrice087]

very true polygon.........it's that that at my old school...everyone was Honda fanatics with tuner magazine shit everywhere,Hell i evebn saw VTEC decals on a friggin Honda mini-van...and i do beleive there are numeous people on this board who believe slapping a turbo on a lower-displacement car will make it alot more powerful than the bigger displacement car

[aznxthuggie]

-_- what the....

[Kurtdg19]

Ok, just to clarify up a few things. Honda VTEC (Valve Timming Electronic Control) is theirs, but its nothing that other car manufactures don't have (VVT is 80s tech.). Its just Honda's trademark and design for a variable valve timming system.

The VTEC system alone doesn't actually variably change the timming of the valves. What it has are two sets of different cams (2stage) that have different duration and lifts designed for specific rpm. There are also 3 stage setups that would be used in low, mid, and high rpm states. Honda uses this system (VTEC), Mittsubishi (MIVEC), Nissan (VVL).

A variable timming system uses what they call cam-phasing. This system can actually vary the timming. What happens is it shifts the phase angle of the camshafts to change the timming the valves open (mainly by a hydraulic gear). Many automakers use this system. BMW, Ferrari, Audi, Ford, Toyota, and on and on.

VTEC is old. Honda's new system is called i-VTEC. This is basically combining both systems. Toyota also has a similar system (VVTL-i).

So I guess to sum it all up, VTEC is nothing super extraordinary. In fact, its just as old as the NSX. As much as I like the NSX, its just not competitive for its price anymore. I would also choose the Ford GT.

[aznxthuggie]

good job kurt.. burnt rice is just so hard headed.. he wont listen.. i hope u put it thru his head

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by burntrice087

I prefer the Acura NSX because its the best bang for the buck and it has wayyyy better handling than any of the other cars...It's light weight and it looks incredably sexy....Plus it has VTEC which can beat anything

Originally Posted by burntrice087

very true polygon.........it's that that at my old school...everyone was Honda fanatics with tuner magazine shit everywhere,Hell i evebn saw VTEC decals on a friggin Honda mini-van...and i do beleive there are numeous people on this board who believe slapping a turbo on a lower-displacement car will make it alot more powerful than the bigger displacement car

As I said in the other thread. BS like this is not allowed in the car comparisons. You don't fake your preference for a car, only to post sarcarstic stuff and make fun of the honda fans. This is your last warning before an enforced vacation.

[burntrice087]

fake preference for the car wtf..I love the NSX......so before branding being a BSer..please reconsider that iam not "dissing" or talking ish about the Honda camp...........In other words iam not playing both sides of the fence and i consider my comments "neutral"