GSR block- B16 head

[EF You]

Originally Posted by crx91

ok. thats cool. pr3 pistons.now are you talkin about all the pr3 heads. cuz the b16b and b18c are both pr3 and have diff commp. my lights are dot approved and what. that set up will not get you 13.3. sorry dog, its called physics. type r is better than stock but not better than after market. type r is a badge not a product.

so i suppose that instead of the ITR parts he should put skunk2 parts in it? like a skunk2 manifold instead of an ITR one, and a skunk2 header instead of an ITR one? last i checked, they were nearly identical. same with the low model skunk2 cams and ITR cams.

and the PR3 stamp is on lots parts on the b16a, not just the head. the PR3 pistons are good high compression pistons. not as high as CTR, but they are still good.

the reason he said DOT approved tires was to illustrate that he wasnt using slicks when he ran that time.

and just because type R is a badge doesnt mean that the R cars arent better than their normal honda counterpart.

i think that he can run 13.3 with that setup, because i ran 13.9 in my 90 STD with full interior, and the only part of that setup that i dont have is a GSR block, my b16 is setup the same as that, although he didnt mention which cams are in it. im running CTR intake cam and ITR exhaust cam.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by incucivic

im running CTR intake cam and ITR exhaust cam.

Its the same as a full CTR set basically

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by incucivic

so i suppose that instead of the ITR parts he should put skunk2 parts in it? like a skunk2 manifold instead of an ITR one, and a skunk2 header instead of an ITR one? last i checked, they were nearly identical. same with the low model skunk2 cams and ITR cams.

Thats true. Skunk2 produce a LITTLE bit more than stock ITR parts. Either set up is good.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by crx91

ok. thats cool. pr3 pistons.now are you talkin about all the pr3 heads. cuz the b16b and b18c are both pr3 and have diff commp. my lights are dot approved and what. that set up will not get you 13.3. sorry dog, its called physics. type r is better than stock but not better than after market. type r is a badge not a product.

Why is it so hard to believe? His car is light and that set up should be enough to get his friend hit low 13s? Like i said before, i hit 13.9 on a STOCK motor and shitty sumitumo tires lol. Well i had ctr pistons with i/h/e with an exedy clutch and type r flywheel. The head is completely stock. Still the motor is basically stock!

[SiZ]

Originally Posted by crx91

ok. thats cool. pr3 pistons.now are you talkin about all the pr3 heads. cuz the b16b and b18c are both pr3 and have diff commp. my lights are dot approved and what. that set up will not get you 13.3. sorry dog, its called physics. type r is better than stock but not better than after market. type r is a badge not a product.

Shit dude, I read this and didn't even understand a fuckin' thing you were trying to say until I read everyone's responses.

Who said what about a PR3 head?!?! I said PR3 pistons, they're from a 1st gen B16A. They'll net you high enough compression to make good numbers, but not high enough to get you in trouble with certain pump gasses (CTR may be slightly too high comp for 91 octane).

I don't know who the fuck said anything about your lights being DOT approved, so whatever...

What does physics have to do with my friends car running 13.3? You don't need to believe it, I've seen it myself numerous times. You think I'd make that up just to impress you!??!?!

I don't know WTF you're talking about about the Type-R being a badge and not a product.. Type-R makes better versions of Hondas already efficient parts. The Skunk2 intake manifold is almost an exact copy of the ITR, but I'm sure you've never seen the two side by side or even one on its own... Same with Type-R header, compare that to an aftermarket header and then come talk to me..
HAHA.. Fuck, you were the one telling the guy to use the Civic Type-R head because its so much better. Get a clue before you talk to me dude.

Mellow - The cam setup is 00ITRs wich is the same as CTR cams.. CTR intake cam is slightly better than 97-99 ITR intake cam, but the exhaust cam and the 00ITR intake cam are the same as CTR counter parts.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by SiZ

Mellow - The cam setup is 00ITRs wich is the same as CTR cams.. CTR intake cam is slightly better than 97-99 ITR intake cam, but the exhaust cam and the 00ITR intake cam are the same as CTR counter parts.

I know that. Thats why i said they're the same. Cause having CTR intake cam and ITR exhaust cam is just like having a full set of CTR cams. Thats what i meant

About the cr. I was soo worried that i might have to use racing fuel but this shop called Garage Kwai said i should be fine using the 93 octane fuel in chicago. In arizona they only go up to 92. Well atleast so far that i've seen. Anyways i never had a problem with my engine using 93 octane. From what i've been told that even 12:0 cr can handle pump gas but must be tuned and i think you have to retard the timing a lil.