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Old 08-18-2004, 07:15 PM
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My car will not start..and makes a hollow noise sometimes when attempting to start the car...it turns over....but only wants to crank...it has about 4 gallons of gas in the tank any ideas...b/c it's stuck at a gas station...help
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My car will not start..and makes a hollow noise sometimes when attempting to start the car...it turns over....but only wants to crank...it has about 4 gallons of gas in the tank any ideas...b/c it's stuck at a gas station...help
Maybe a fuel pump?
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Maybe a fuel pump?
How many miles on it and can you hear like a humming noise from rear of car when you turn on ignation?, that would be the3 fuel pump working.
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

It is possible, the pump is cooled by fuel, no fuel overheat?
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Old 08-18-2004, 07:36 PM
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112k and not sure that i have heard the humming..then again I wasn't listening.....fuel pump overheating...not sure at this point any suggestions help

appreciate the help you guys
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ran out of gas...and now
Maybe the fuel filter is clogged
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

After 112K who knows how much crud in the fuel tank was pumped thru the lines, could be a host of issues.

Pump
Filter
Clogged Lines
FPR
Injectors.

Once (and if) you get it started (I'm sure you will) get a fuel line conditioning.
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

Sorry to hear the bad news. Hopefully this will clear up for soon. Is it possible to fill up the tank with some gas and add a fuel cleaner. Maybe this will help. If not, it sounds like you have a clogged filter or clogged line.
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thanks for the help guys....where would i begin to diagnose the problem?
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

yeah, thats the easiest to start, then look at getting some injector cleaning and that fuel line condtioning. If that doesnt do it, then its kinda downhill from there. Pump, lines and injectors...eesh.

I hope it works out for you.
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The question was essentially, "where do I begin to diagnose the problem".

You need to determine, as suggested earlier, if the fuel pump is operational. As novices, the easiest way to do this is to sit in the driver's seat, place the key in the ignition, close the door, make sure the radio is off and it's as quiet as possible. Then, turn the ignition key from the LOCK position to the RUN position (DO NOT CRANK ENGINE). As you move the key from LOCK to RUN listen for the fuel pump "hummm" as it pressurizes the fuel system. You will hear this for at most 5 seconds or so and then you will hear the click of the relay-switch as the fuel pump is shut off. If you hear the "hummm" of the fuel pump there is a good chance that it is working and so you can move forward from the fuel tank. (By the way, when I start any of my FI vehicles I always move the key to the RUN position, wait for the fuel pump to pressurize and shut off, prior to cranking. My rationale: this ensures good fuel rail pressure and easier start.)

Several folks have made suggestions about the possible problems moving from the fuel pump forward. It may make sense to check the fuel pressure (you will need a fuel pressure guage) at the fuel rail. This may help you to determine if there is sufficient pressure at the fuel rail or if there is a blockage (fuel filter) in the line.

NOTE, GASOLINE IS A HIGHLY VOLATILE SUBSTANCE. GM HAS SPECIFIC GUIDELINES IN THEIR SERVICE MANUALS FOR WORKING ON/WITH THE FUEL SYSTEM. THESE PROCEDURES SHOULD BE FOLLOWED EXPLICITLY. GASOLINE CAN IGNITE AND BURN CAUSING DAMAGE, INJURY, AND DEATH. EXTREME CAUTION SHOULD BE USED WHEN WORKING ON YOUR AUTOMOMBILE'S FUEL SYSTEM! IF YOU ARE UNSURE ABOUT YOUR SKILLS OR THE HANDLING OF THE FUELS DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS WORK YOURSELF.
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

So no smoking when you get some poeple to push the back up on a curb so you can crawl under it and pop the fuel filter out and spray gas all over creation, OK?

And no, I'VE never done this- why do you ask? Careful when you wash your flannel shirt up afterwards too
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

for me it was the fuel pump that finally failed last week after a number of months of hard starts (had to crank 3 or 4 times when cold before it would catch).

Of course it had to happen when I was 500 miles from home on a Saturday - try to find an Aurora fuel pump in a strange town on a Sat. afternoon...

These cars are fun!

Starts great now though...
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Re: ran out of gas...and now

it was my fuell pump guys....500 to fix...thanks for the help
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