HP on SR20

[logik23]

Originally Posted by SR20DETpower

well logik, your campaign to piss in my water every thread I post in is mildly agitating, of course it would help if what you said was valid or intimidating LOL

yes I believe, that when people modifiy their engines, it is in search of MORE POWER so that they can GO FASTER.......

correct me if im wrong

Glad you're enjying it, but seriously, if all you want is more power then get a 5000hp top fueler, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's more to an engine then the horsepower, maybe someone likes the SR more then the KA, maybe there's something about it that people like, and besides, if the KA is so much better, why didn't they use it in Japan for the Silvia and 180SX?

[turbo2nr]

what is their to agree with in my post lolz o0o well.. wat ever..

[Chuki_breath]

Originally Posted by turbo2nr

what is their to agree with in my post lolz o0o well.. wat ever..

yea i was confused on that too lol i spent a few minutes trying to find the agreement lol i think he ment logik23 maybe!?!?!?!!?!

[sidewayzS13]

if we all want to go faster we should just all buy crotch rockets and say the hell w/ our cars byut seriously guys why does everyone have to get so hostile

[mynismo]

i dont know who or why i was agreeing with anybody... lol

Originally Posted by pnoiSR20

Thanks turbo2nr.....and mynismo...how much money does it take to do something like that?

a setup with 400whp costs about 2.5k. all you need is a big turbo, fuel, and management. example: http://www.jgycustoms.com/240sx/turbokits.htm

i love how the ka turbo kit puts 220hp at the crank for almost $4k, and how the sr kit puts out 400whp for 2.5k. hmm i wonder why that could be


remember you have to get an exhaust, fmic, lsd, good tires, brakes...... it adds up. i spent a good 10k on my current setup for around 250whp. that includes chassis, (everything new) xdrilled rotors, good tires, fmic, intake, 3.7" exhaust, plugs, all new gaskets/hoses, header, thermostat, greddy gauges, racing harnesses, bov, hotpipe, koyo aluminum, dual flexalites, flywheel, clutch, downpipe, tension rods, turbo outlet, etc etc etc and a very very reliable installation. if i'd install everything myself i'd be looking at around 8.5k.

i basically maxed out the turbo, have a very good mileage, low 13 sec car with fmic thats really reliable, handles very well, doesn't have overheating problems and really doesn't need to have any major money thrown at it for at least another 30-40k miles (considering everything starts and goes well the first time).



there are a lot of hidden expenses in the sr install. if you are going fmic... plan on spending at least 5k for a rolling chassis with the basic clutch/exhaust, and if you are installing it yourself. its worth it because the ka is a complete piece of shit.

[SR20DETpower]

if you call the ka24de a complete piece of shit you know very little about cars and engines.......

Just the construction of the block, its material iron, and the head blow the SR out of the fucking water, then u have things like more displacement=more power.

how is it a fair comparison to say 4 grand for 200rwhp on a KAT and 2.5grand for 400hp on a SR20.

ok so 5 grand to installed sr20, then 2.5grand to get 400rwhp, thats 6,500 total, but you just said you spent 10 grand to get 250rwhp.(so you claim)

if it costs you 4 grand for all the turbo parts buying them yourself, you have a screw lose. For that price I could turbo the car and completely rebuild the engine, something your 5grand junkyard motor normally doesn't have.

how do you point to one website that shows this whacked price, and then say it only takes 2.5k to make 400rwhp on a SR? thats fucking dumb from a punk ass ricer.

anyhow, people are running 350rwhp reliably(the whole thing about reliable in a turbo car is how well everything is thought out and installed) on KA's with an intercooler, bov, turbo, wasitegate, boost controller, exhaust, k&N filter, used injectors, and a hacked MAF. People run t hose setups for a long time for many miles. Im even surprised at the HP level today's cars are making with hacked maf's.

[logik23]

If you include the price of the engine and installation for the SR20DET then you should include the price of the engine and installation for a KA24DE for someone over in Japan. If you already have the car with the engine in it and you start from there, it's the only way to find the true cost of geting more power, if you disagree, you're retarded.

His 10 grand was also to get suspension, brakes, etc. Not just the engine. So try reading posts before making statements.

[Chuki_breath]

yes but sr20detpower has a point.....6,500 for the sr20 nismo has already spent as he said right?

u could buy a used ka for 500 doallars. That leaves 6000 to rebuild with aftermarket parts (if needed) and buy other parts for turbo setup and have a good fast car that would definently get 400 horsies, am i right???? Stop showing gay kits too...kits are way overpriced thats why people usually peice the shit together themselves. i dont know one person to actually buy a "kit". Most people pick and choose. like i said before also that kit is rated at 6 PSI!!!!! who honestly will leave it at that PSI...o yea no one.

www.phatka-t.com

[logik23]

Yes, over here, we can get a KA24 for like 500$, but the SR is a JDM engine, we can't compare the 2 prices, we would have to look at how much it would be to swap out the SR and put in the KA in Japan.

[mynismo]

sr20's used to be under $500 to import before the damn trend caught on.


and here is the almighty list of costs. NO, i didn't spend it all on the engine. i have new tires, tension rods, chassis, install... everything. add it up.

there are a lot of hidden costs for both swaps that people never post about because they either think they can get away with rigging it up and popping the motor for the least amount of $$$ and not getting new parts.... then there's other people like me who get everything new, do it right the first time and get all new hoses, belts, etc. and do it right. dont get me wrong, im not ragging on anyone who can get it done cheaper to conserve costs, but if you want a very very well done swap (and car for that matter), this is what you have to do:



CHASSIS
clean s13 chassis 800 local DELIVERED 6/21

MOTOR
sr20det motorset 2200 ki DELIVERED 6/26

PARTS
turbo outlet 101 deluboz DELIVERED 6/22
hks downpipe 196 enjuku DELIVERED 6/24
walbro fuel pump 106 enjuku DELIVERED 6/24
greddy turbo timer 86 enjuku DELIVERED 6/24
spec stage 3 6 puck 339 enjuku DELIVERED 6/24
fidanza flywheel 350 enjuku DELIVERED 6/24
iridium spark plugs 39 enjuku DELIVERED 6/28
gaskets/hoses 134 phase2 DELIVERED 6/25
electric fan kit 74 summit DELIVERED 7/1
crossdrilled rotors 170 ebay DELIVERED 7/1
air filter 38 ebay DELIVERED 7/1
greddy egt gauge 211 revhigh DELIVERED 7/1
greddy boost gauge 215 revhigh DELIVERED 7/13
60mm gauge holders 30 revhigh DELIVERED 7/13
oil cap 18 ebay DELIVERED 7/1
header 238 ebay DELIVERED 7/2
kumho tires 215 tirerack DELIVERED 7/2
gaskets/belts 155 phase2 DELIVERED 7/2
brake pads 35 autozone DELIVERED 7/2
mt90 tranny fluid 40 summit DELIVERED 6/1
apexi gt spec 600 slick DELIVERED 7/12
tein tension rods 200 slick DELIVERED 7/12
oil catch can 100 slick DELIVERED 7/12
nismo harnesses 120 ebay DELIVERED 6/1
nismo shift knob 50 ebay DELIVERED 6/1
car alarm 120 ebay DELIVERED 6/1
aluminum antenna 19 ebay DELIVERED 7/21
turbo xs h-rfl 143 ebay DELIVERED 7/21
greddy vspl fmic 765 racingworx DELIVERED 7/23
hotpipe 103 enjuku DELIVERED 7/23
ss test pipe 58 ebay DELIVERED 7/23
koyo aluminum radiator 360 phase2 DELIVERED 7/26
nismo radiator cap 30 phase2 DELIVERED 7/26
flexalite dual efans 212 summit DELIVERED 7/31
chuki turn signals 45 ebay SHIPPING 7/2
5715 total

LABOR
install 1100 slick INSTALL 7/26
sr20det wiring 300 slick INSTALL 7/26
tension install 100 slick INSTALL 7/26
brake pads install 100 slick INSTALL 7/26
1600 total

project costs 10315



keep in mind i got greddy gauges, nismo radiator cap, harnesses, flywheel, tires................. you can get away with probably 2 grand less if you just reuse the stock stuff and get somewhat less expensive items, but i went a little over on a few things because im really picky.