Ferrari maranello VS Mercedes Sl 500

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

....um just pointing out that slalom tests don't really prove much, especially when the topic in question is talking about a race track.

the test i've got showed that the 1.6 focus (again, these are british results; i gather you guys have different set up on your cars...) is 0.19 secs faster on the slalom.

this is against a sl600.
the mag goes to say that the sl55 amg did much better when they last put it through simliar tests.

Do u have that issue of C&D??

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

....um just pointing out that slalom tests don't really prove much, especially when the topic in question is talking about a race track.

I didnt say anything about race track, im talking about handling, which obviously cant be defined as a number, but clearly a slalom test gives an indication of a car's agility. Is it a coincidence that the cars that topped the list (GT3RS, Elise, R500) are focused drivers' machines?

[drunken monkey]

but the same article also pointed out that there was a technique involved in taking a car through a slalom.

hey i'm not trying to argue anything here.
just trying to point out that you can't really judge a car's track ability on its ability to take on a slalom test
(after all, the focus beats the sl600 in a slalom but in the track times?)

[kman10587]

Should be SL600 in the comparo, not the SL55 AMG.

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

just trying to point out that you can't really judge a car's track ability on its ability to take on a slalom test
(after all, the focus beats the sl600 in a slalom but in the track times?)

Sure, im not saying slalom performance is the key determinant of a car's track performance. I was just saying that it's not irrelevant either

Why the SL would beat the Focus on the track? There's the small matter of 500bhp vs 100bhp

[jcsaleen]

Slalom Times for sportscar and exotics are geting shittier and shitter each year. The lambo Gallardo Did horrible the focus also beat that as well.

[drunken monkey]

see, that's where the pure numbers are misleading,
especially when it comes to things like a slalom test.
in short, a certain type of car suits a slalom test (i.e small, light..... think go-kart)
as it responds better to the techniques needed to negotiate a slalom.

surprise surprise, a big 2 ton car with too much power/torque does badly....

what this test does show, is that the set-up of the focus is near spot on
which
DOES NOT mean that the cars it can beat are not as good.

again, i should point out as someone else here mentioned to me, the cars that we get here in the uk are not the same in terms of suspension set-up.
so your 1.6 focus might not get the same results....

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

again, i should point out as someone else here mentioned to me, the cars that we get here in the uk are not the same in terms of suspension set-up.
so your 1.6 focus might not get the same results....

Yea well usaully the european cars have tighter tunered suspension then american cars. Thats also y european cars are smaller because europe is more crowded an smaller streets.

[lamehonda]

Its a ferrari! It sounds sooo good