Prelude vs Talon

[FDTT]

Well looks like you all need to re read my post. Like i said if the engine was dynoed on an engine stand then yes you would possibly see 205 flywheel hp. But no to the wheels.

Second double clutching will slow you down when upshifting. Its quite simple to figure out. The time it takes you to push the clutch in, pull out of gear, release the clutch, push in the clutch, push into gear and release the clutch. That would take far more time than simply powershifting into gear.

If you mean matching the RPM when you shift then yes you will be faster. But doubleclutching will not make you any faster. It is a technique used to match RPM's whill downshifting. Mainly used in large commircial trucks and dog-toothed gearbox cars that have no syncros.

And yes i have driven a 4th gen VTEC, as well as 5th gens, i have a 3rd gen, and ive driven 2nd gens as well.

You can continue to beleave that you will beat all these cars. But numbers dont lie.

This thread is funny as hell! Heres my say: A skilled driver in a vtec prelude will be able to hold his own against an awd talon in a street race. 9 times out of 10 the talon will edge out the prelude due to its awd launch capabilities. And that 1 race that the prelude wins is due to driver error on the talons end. In street racing the driver plays the biggest role in the outcome of the race. I have beat an awd talon but it was because of a mishift. he had me off the line and up through 3rd but he missed 4th and thats all i needed to pass him. vtec preludes stand a much better chance of winning against a gs-t. And then the big difference is in the aftermarket...The eclipse / talon can be made much quicker with a few mods and for a lot cheaper then you could a prelude.

[rickjames_biatch]

SBallerk and SRV BOY you two clowns need to stop kidding yourself! the 4g63 talons and eclipses are one of the best platforms around, when it comes to making crazy gobs of FI power for relatively small amounts of money. I am yet to see a drag race where a lightly modded prelude has ever beaten a lightly modded TSi or GSX.
I'm not taking anything away from the Prelude, it's an incredible ride, and probably would stop the Talon on a road course.
You two give Honda enthusiasts a bad reputation. VTEC is great, but a turbo is much better. So go ahead and drive your inherently superior VTEC preludes against a TSi or a GSX on the street, and then we'll see who's laughing.

[Janet Reno]

Why would the Talon win in the US but not Canada? US AND CANADA CARS ARE THE SAME. In every post this guy tries to differentiate the cars and make it seem like Canadian cars are different, or that his is better because it's Canadian, or some other insane idea. Did you ever think your car was probably made in US somewhere and shipped up here? I'm so tired of hearing this. First he says the Prelude in Canada would win for WHO knows why, then he begins to say that he has engine swaps(which aren't even going to give him hp) and an air intake that's good for virtually nothing other than the fact that you're able to say you spent the money on it. How does that equate to Canadian Preludes being faster because you have mods?

All things equal there is no Prelude that will take an AWD Talon stock for stock in a drag.. The 2g's have 210hp/215torque and AWD which makes it pretty much already have the race won right off the line no matter if it weighs 200lbs more. The Talon run 14.7-14.9's, Ludes are 15+ cars. Preludes are better handling and better built and more reliable and all that but for a silly little drag, no matter how much you want to think "our precious Prelude" or "our beloved VTEC" you aren't going to somehow magically win because of it.

[SBallerk2]

O.K. guys....Silly me made some stupid comments about how the Prelude would kill a Talon.....well...that was then this is NOW...

Talon Turbo or Eclipse Trubo would beat a stock Prelude any day simple reason's AWD and Turbo!!

Besides Talon's and Eclipse fit in the lower half part or heavy weight's

while a Lude is more of a Lightweight STOCK atleast!!

but here's what I think there's nothing like kicking in VTEC in a Prelude i mean hit it on a Accord,Odd., or any other honda non-Prelude and it's not the same....(ok no RSX's...I said HONDA guys!!) it feels CRAZY!!!and has more then enough power to beat most riced up CARS!!! and i'm sure TURBO feels even crazier but with only lil other 20 more HP on a stock turbo i don't think it's worth buying a talon and over 100k talon's r pretty much worthless (Re-Sale wise so r turbo Eclipse)and Turbo power decrease a lot or miles and Years!! turst me

If u want a really fast car for a 1 year or so get a TALON!!

If u want a really fast car for many year's and be able to throw in a turbo some day and meet up with super heavy weight's RX7's (damn I love them!!!) supra's, Eclipse's, s2000, RSX type S, Integra Type R, suit up CRX's (damn there FAST!!) muscle car's, etc. u'll c most of those people will have mad RESPECT FOR U and say what the!!! Trubo LUDE...then come race time WoW that Lude is FAST!! and u'll also c Lude's r that SLOW and atleast a how long longer then more Stock turbo Car's... O.K. some Example's...

RX7: tho I LOVE them it's hard to buy one for the reason there know to blow out tranny's fast and need a stupid REBUILT every 1 to 3 year's depending on how u repesct it....(cause of no piston's, turbo etc.)

Talon and Eclipse: simple reason they give many problems other 100k and there now mostly other that number...

I keep going but the simple facts R that: these heavy weights r faster then any Prelude stock and would kill u but then again...I would have more pride on suiting up a Lude to 12 sec's but then again that's just me!!!

[SBallerk2]

if u really want a fast reliable 9 sec car get a Supra LoL...nuff said

[AcesHigh]

This is such an old thread... if you guys really want another DSM vs Prelude discussion, make a new one. Some of the arguments here are sort of ridiculous.

[Shpyder]

"and i'm sure TURBO feels even crazier but with only lil other 20 more HP on a stock turbo i don't think it's worth buying a talon and over 100k talon's r pretty much worthless (Re-Sale wise so r turbo Eclipse)and Turbo power decrease a lot or miles and Years!! turst me"


I don'y know man, there's a world of a difference between turbo and NA 4-cyl. You'll feel a drastic increase of power in the mid-range with the stock T-25 versus revving your engine to redline to acheive VTEC. Just go drive one man. A 2.2 VTECH turbo would be crazier though, once I get the money that's another project... I wonder if they can be AWD'd? What donor diffrential would i need...

[SiGNAL748]

No "Donor" Available.

You'd need to custom fabricate your own drivetrain.

$$$$$$$!!!!

[AcesHigh]

Well son of a... I thought I closed this thing. Well here it goes, again.