Lancer Ralliart vs Dodge SRT-4?

[flylwsi]

1000hp 3.0 liter with better mileage than a street version of the same engine?
what?

do you know what kind of mileage race engines get? not better than a street engine.

then shouldn't this be comparing the top of the line evo with the top of the line neon? it should be evo vs srt4

did you start the comparo?
no.
the person starting the thread asked about these two cars, right?
right.

so that's why we're talking about these two.

[flylwsi]

another thing to consider is how the engine is used:
for example, there was a road and track that gave mileage for some fun vehicles, such as a porsche gt2, used on a race track.
how quick the tank went, mileage, etc...

the gt2 got 6mpg, and killed its tank in an hour...

so, when driven all out, the same engine got far less mileage...

but that's besides the point...

end of side note...

[Demon_Mustang]

Eh, you're probably right, I just know that they are limited by how many times they are allowed to refuel, and given the amount of power these engines are cranking out, it seems they are tons more efficient even in fuel consumption compared to an engine that normal people might build that might have close to the same amount of horsepower.

[Filthy Sanchez]

I've seen 1.8 liter Hondas produce 800-1,000hp at drag events but the life of the engine isn't very long either.

[Demon_Mustang]

Usually the engine and transmission needs to be replaced or rebuilt every night after the race.

[Filthy Sanchez]

Originally Posted by Demon_Mustang

Usually the engine and transmission needs to be replaced or rebuilt every night after the race.

Exactly my point, but the same can be said of a 2,000-3,000hp big block racing Ford or Chevy. They have little life expectancy.

[Demon_Mustang]

Um, ok, I don't think I've ever said otherwise though, so uh, ok...

[Filthy Sanchez]

Originally Posted by Demon_Mustang

Um, ok, I don't think I've ever said otherwise though, so uh, ok...

Didn't say you did, hope I didn't give that impression just making a point on this thread that's all brother.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by O2daG

I think you should get the ralliart. I've seen this guy who put in a turbo into the ralliart and that car now has 248hp to the wheels. People have asked him many question about what upgrades he has done to the engine other than the turbo and he's done nothing. It's all stock just a turbo added on. He says he has run many test and the car is running with no problems the only thing he has upgraded is the clutch and wheels. If you ask me i just think that the ralliart is more of a solid car that is not going to lose its value for what u pay for it as the years go by. On the other hand srt-4 is also good and fast and has a lot of power, but is the value going to last. The neon will be a neon. Ralliart has a lot better looking interior too. A lot of the evo is in the ralliart and a lot of the neon is in the srt-4. So if you want a quick car right a way go with the srt-4 but if you want a car that you mod and enjoy for a long time get the ralliart. The ralliart will leave a better impresion when u drive by. The srt-4 just like someone said earlier is a neon if you take the srt-4 off of it. And there's nothing impresive about a neon.

P.S. i don't want any rude comment from the neon lovers, i'm just voicing my opinion.

I don't really care if you're voicing your opinion because I'm calling bullshit. There is no way in hell that the stock engine in the Lancer is going to handle 250HP. I don't buy that load of bullshit for one second. Also, I hate to break it to you, but if you want to say the SRT-4 is just a Neon then by the same logic I can say that the Evo is just a Lancer, and the STi is just an Impreza, and the GT R-34 is just a Skyline. All of these cars are derived from humble economy cars, but they also have very little in common with them. Don't be another ignorant fool. Also, if you want to talk about resale value, I doubt the Lancer will hold its value any better than the SRT-4. With Chrysler selling all of its voting stock in Mitsubishi it has left the company very shaken. Unless someone big buys up those shares the company won't be able to carry on much longer. The Evo already has crappy resale since they aren't selling well at all. With all of this how good do you think the resale will be when Mitsubishi no longer exsists?

[Demon_Mustang]

Speaking of not being able to carry on much longer, I remember a very interesting article in Time magazine talking about all the times Chrysler has almost gone bankrupt and just barely pulled out of it. But oh well, now Daimler has them, and they should be doing pretty well from here on out.

[O2daG]

Originally Posted by Polygon

I don't really care if you're voicing your opinion because I'm calling bullshit. There is no way in hell that the stock engine in the Lancer is going to handle 250HP. I don't buy that load of bullshit for one second. Also, I hate to break it to you, but if you want to say the SRT-4 is just a Neon then by the same logic I can say that the Evo is just a Lancer, and the STi is just an Impreza, and the GT R-34 is just a Skyline. All of these cars are derived from humble economy cars, but they also have very little in common with them. Don't be another ignorant fool. Also, if you want to talk about resale value, I doubt the Lancer will hold its value any better than the SRT-4. With Chrysler selling all of its voting stock in Mitsubishi it has left the company very shaken. Unless someone big buys up those shares the company won't be able to carry on much longer. The Evo already has crappy resale since they aren't selling well at all. With all of this how good do you think the resale will be when Mitsubishi no longer exsists?

YOu saying that it's BS just cause you don't like the truth. Well then why don't you go to these links and find out for yourself.
This is a link where you can find info on the turbo ralliart read the msg posts for the TURBO TECH P.R. he's the owner, the turbo is done custom by him. He's also hoping to sell it in the future. In this forum 2nd page is where he tells about the turbo, if you go to the 3rd page the guy tells about the results of a dyno, and on that same page about half way down he says that the engine is completely stock.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...5&pagenumber=2

You can go here to see the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart too.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/561882

this is the link to the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart. His car is the one with the stickers.
And if you still have hard time believing him then email him his email is in the forum.

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by O2daG

YOu saying that it's BS just cause you don't like the truth. Well then why don't you go to these links and find out for yourself.
This is a link where you can find info on the turbo ralliart read the msg posts for the TURBO TECH P.R. he's the owner, the turbo is done custom by him. He's also hoping to sell it in the future. In this forum 2nd page is where he tells about the turbo, if you go to the 3rd page the guy tells about the results of a dyno, and on that same page about half way down he says that the engine is completely stock.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...5&pagenumber=2

You can go here to see the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart too.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/561882

this is the link to the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart. His car is the one with the stickers.
And if you still have hard time believing him then email him his email is in the forum.

and is he offering a 7 year complette warranty too?

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by O2daG

YOu saying that it's BS just cause you don't like the truth. Well then why don't you go to these links and find out for yourself.
This is a link where you can find info on the turbo ralliart read the msg posts for the TURBO TECH P.R. he's the owner, the turbo is done custom by him. He's also hoping to sell it in the future. In this forum 2nd page is where he tells about the turbo, if you go to the 3rd page the guy tells about the results of a dyno, and on that same page about half way down he says that the engine is completely stock.

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...5&pagenumber=2

You can go here to see the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart too.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/561882

this is the link to the pics of TURBO TECH P.R. ralliart. His car is the one with the stickers.
And if you still have hard time believing him then email him his email is in the forum.

I'm not saying that he can't make that kind of power on the stock block, I'm saying that the stock internals won't handle that. Are you going to believe some guy simply because he says so? I don't.