Z32 a SUPERCAR?

[nissan_drvr]

So what are they gonna use?

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by nissan_drvr twice in six minutes

So what are they gonna use?

Originally Posted by VQuick fifteen minutes earlier!

The GT-R will almost certainly have a VQ V6. Cosworth has already been working on them, using a special manufacturing process to make the blocks stronger. A V8 has been ruled out because of weight distribution issues. Adding the ATTESA-ETS/PRO awd system will already increase the front bias, and the extra weight of the V8 may create a greater front bias than what Nissan wants.

To specify further, the motor could be a VQ30, VQ32, VQ33, or VQ35. The VQ40 was built for truck duty, and probably behaves like the VK56 'Endurance' V8.

[Zoso]

I guess 2006 (or 2007?) will tell... I would be pretty pissed if it came with a VH45DE or whatever was said. Non-turbo GTR... Nononono, hahaha.

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by Zoso

I guess 2006 (or 2007?) will tell... I would be pretty pissed if it came with a VH45DE or whatever was said. Non-turbo GTR... Nononono, hahaha.

The GT-R is supposed to have been pushed back again to 2008 for Japan. The US and Europe would probably get it in mid-late '08 or early '09. It won't even be shown until the TMS in '07.

[VoltronGundam]

ok, I don't know what is planned. If I did, I would let y'all know. But if I was working with Nissan on some of this, this is how I would like to see it:

Z33 Fairlady/350 Z - engine is a good choice, would like to see a TT version

R35 Skyline GT-R - I would like to see the 5.6L V8 that is in the Titan trucks. Tuned, TT, AWD, HICAS, basicly the works. As for weight distribution, that is what R&D is there for. Maybe move the cockpit back like on the Corvette?

Titan - I would like to see a heavy duty version of the Titan. Being a Nissan truck owner myself (83 720 Kingcab), either go with a diesal engine like Ford and Dodge, or develop a big block V8 like GM. After seeing a Titan on the road for the first time the other day, I think it would look great as a daully.

S Series - I think that Nissan should bring back the S series, preferably call it the Silvia for once in the US market. Maybe develop a new 4cyl for it, considering the SR has been with the Silvia since 88 or 89. RWD would still be preferred.

[1viadrft]

Well... all I know is I'm excited! The SKYLINE is finally coming to America! NA, Single Turbo or TT... as long as it's AWD,AWS and and preforms like a GTR should... I like it! Start saving, boys!

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by VoltronGundam

ok, I don't know what is planned. If I did, I would let y'all know. But if I was working with Nissan on some of this, this is how I would like to see it:

Z33 Fairlady/350 Z - engine is a good choice, would like to see a TT version

Sounds great, but it could cannibalize GT-R sales.

R35 Skyline GT-R - I would like to see the 5.6L V8 that is in the Titan trucks. Tuned, TT, AWD, HICAS, basicly the works. As for weight distribution, that is what R&D is there for. Maybe move the cockpit back like on the Corvette?

The reason using the V8 will affect weight distribution is because of the weight of the motor, not necessarily the placement. Nissan can already fit the V8 at or behind the front axle, as they've done in the Infiniti FX45 suv, which is also FM-based and uses the VK45DE V8. Still, the VQ offers better weight distribution, as well as less weight overall, so that is why Nissan is sticking with it.

Even the VK45, let alone the VK46 would not be a good choice for a motor. The VK56, especally with it's tuning and dimensions, is made to power a truck. It has lots of low-end torque, good mid range, and probably little top end. That is very bad for a sporting application of the caliber that the GT-R is supposed to be. It would probably be like driving a big version of the current SE-R, with the QR25DE's rev limit of only about 6400-6700rpm(can't remember which).

Titan - I would like to see a heavy duty version of the Titan. Being a Nissan truck owner myself (83 720 Kingcab), either go with a diesal engine like Ford and Dodge, or develop a big block V8 like GM. After seeing a Titan on the road for the first time the other day, I think it would look great as a daully.

Nissan's supposed to be working on diesel and heavy duty Titans. First, they'll have to make sure they have the plant capacity for that. The plant that currently produces Titans also makes a few other vehicles. If Nissan is going to get serious about competing with the Domestic Three, they would probably need one plant just for truck products like the Frontier, Pathfinder, XTerra, Armada, and Titan. That would probably be the ideal minimum.

S Series - I think that Nissan should bring back the S series, preferably call it the Silvia for once in the US market. Maybe develop a new 4cyl for it, considering the SR has been with the Silvia since 88 or 89. RWD would still be preferred.

A shortened version of the FM platform would be ideal for this. In this age of engine sharing, Nissan isn't likely to develop a new motor for it though. It would probably get a version of the QR(2L version would be better), or perhaps the new 222hp 2L turbo I4 from Renault. Either way, Nissan would have to be careful about stealing sales away from either the 350Z, or the Sentra SE-R, if they continue to produce it.

[VH45DETTwithNOS]

the VK45DE in the concept was 302kw which I thought wasn't bad for a starting model...

but the VQ30DETT I thought was a cockup for the GT-R @ 230kw but two diffent versons of the GT-R with two engine types for production is one wacked idea...

I was hopefull that the V6 was going to be the like the standard choice but the emissions of the turbo'd engine might not comply.

but to speak of the orignal question, the Z32 a Supercar?

Yes and i love the VG30DETT, it's just a bitch to work on in the engine bay of the fairlady Z.....

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by VH45DETTwithNOS

I was hopefull that the V6 was going to be the like the standard choice but the emissions of the turbo'd engine might not comply.

The motor should be just fine when it comes to emissions. There is a production VQ30DET that is okay, and adding another turbo should change much.

Where did you get the 230kw figure from? I think that's only a little over 300hp. There's little point of having a GT-R with that output, considering the previous model allegedly made more than that, and that a 287hp Z already exists.

[VH45DETTwithNOS]

The R34GT-R N1 had only had 217 KW @ the wheels, up on the "208"kw max, so it had almost 300kw @ the fly wheel, that was on a hot day (34 C) we dyno'd it...

and as for the infomation on the "230 kw" was from what the engine spec on the concept sheet and was factory set, it maybe the proposed @ the wheels figure, so with that in mine you would looking @ an engine with 310+ kw @ the fly wheel, but again it was only the concept idea @ Nissan GT.