The passion of the christ

[TheNotoriousMogg]

Originally Posted by HogieGT-R

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...eut/index.htmland here's something that's quite strange about the whole movie

Report: Woman dies watching 'Passion'

CHICAGO, Illinois (Reuters) --A woman died of an apparent heart attack Wednesday while watching the climactic crucifixion scene in "The Passion of the Christ" at a morning showing in Wichita, Kansas, a television station reported.The film was stopped and a nurse in attendance went to the woman's side, KAKE-TV in Wichita reported."It was the highest emotional part of the movie," a spokeswoman for the station said. A crew from the station was at the special showing, which was sponsored by the ClearChannel Radio chain.The Wichita Eagle newspaper, on its Web site, identified the woman as Peggy Scott, 56, a sales manager for two local radio stations.Employees at KAKE-TV said they knew the woman as Peggy Law, adding they did not think she had any pre-existing health problems.The woman was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital, where a spokesman would only say she had been attending a movie. The county coroner's office said an autopsy would be performed.Mel Gibson's film, which opened Wednesday, has been both criticized and praised for its violent, bloody portrayal of Christ's final hours.

Geez that is out of hand, way out of hand

[ac427cpe]

yeah... heard about that today
very sad

now i'm wondering just how intense it really is...

[slave]

Originally Posted by HogieGT-R

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...eut/index.htmland here's something that's quite strange about the whole movie

Report: Woman dies watching 'Passion'

CHICAGO, Illinois (Reuters) --A woman died of an apparent heart attack Wednesday while watching the climactic crucifixion scene in "The Passion of the Christ" at a morning showing in Wichita, Kansas, a television station reported.The film was stopped and a nurse in attendance went to the woman's side, KAKE-TV in Wichita reported."It was the highest emotional part of the movie," a spokeswoman for the station said. A crew from the station was at the special showing, which was sponsored by the ClearChannel Radio chain.The Wichita Eagle newspaper, on its Web site, identified the woman as Peggy Scott, 56, a sales manager for two local radio stations.Employees at KAKE-TV said they knew the woman as Peggy Law, adding they did not think she had any pre-existing health problems.The woman was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital, where a spokesman would only say she had been attending a movie. The county coroner's office said an autopsy would be performed.Mel Gibson's film, which opened Wednesday, has been both criticized and praised for its violent, bloody portrayal of Christ's final hours.

Only in America.....

Originally Posted by crayzayjay

The guy struck by lightning was holding an umbrella on top of a hill in a storm, i mean come on, lets not read too much into this...

Good to see everyone's being rational in here

I'd gladly stand on top of a hill with an umbrella, I'd play golf in a storm and all sorts. Do you have any idea how extremely little that much voltage is attracted to such a tiny thing?????

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by slave

I'd gladly stand on top of a hill with an umbrella, I'd play golf in a storm and all sorts. Do you have any idea how extremely little that much voltage is attracted to such a tiny thing?????

I guess they must have been lying when they said lightning usually strikes the highest point... and that you should avoid being under a tree, or holding an umbrella, or in an open space... Well, since that's the case, in the chance that one day you're on top of hill in the middle of a storm, you stand there under an umbrella playing golf

Edit: ahhh shit my sarcasm meter didnt go off

[crapmaster4000]

Isnt it amazing that he was able to walk away from a lighning strike though, I dont know too many people that could be able to do that. I dont see why you guys are badmouthing him because of his stupidity on one occasion. Lets talk about how amazing him walking away from the incident is!

[taranaki]

This has posibly been the most hyped film of the year.At the end of the day,it's just another actor throwing his money away for the chance to be director.'Playing God' is a phrase that comes to mind for this fanciful piece of pseudo-intellectual snuff movie.

[slave]

Originally Posted by crayzayjay

I guess they must have been lying when they said lightning usually strikes the highest point... and that you should avoid being under a tree, or holding an umbrella, or in an open space... Well, since that's the case, in the chance that one day you're on top of hill in the middle of a storm, you stand there under an umbrella playing golf

Edit: ahhh shit my sarcasm meter didnt go off

Whats your umbrella connected to? You, and you're connected to? grass etc, so uh, where's the pure conductivity to suck it directionally? Nowhere. Same principles apply to twystrons etc. although in a slightly less contained environment. The way a lightning rod works is NOT by attraction to the bolt as a whole but when the lightning has decided to zap your building etc it offers a high point, so if you're going to be hit, you'll be hit, what you're holding wont change if, but where.

[Parmenides3]

One factor to consider in discerning whether this is all a money-move by Gibson is that he has (or had) a career. The theater powers in Hollywood are reluctant to allow one of their own to cover matter so thoroughly Christian, and especially to make it with a hearty love for Catholicism. The old guard may side-line him forever. Gibson has lost many valuable ($) contacts. He might have to make any future movies out of his own pocket because of the Passion.
Second point, greed does not produce a positive and radical transformation of life. It was not greed that got Gibson off drugs and drunkenness, but faith. The actors held daily prayer services and a priest heard confessions every day. No one goes to confession out of greed. It just doesn't pay (in dollars, anyway).
Third, if greed was the motive for making the movie, the movie might have been made differently. There may have been even more lucrative ways to make it. He made the movie as he did because he fell impelled to do so.
What I'm asking is that if money is the dominant interest for Gibson, what is making him take up so much of his time with prayer and talk of divine love? The movie, I think, is a work of love.
Parmenides3

[taranaki]

I'd have to disagree,Parmenides.I'd say it's a classic example of an actor getting too big for his boots,and wanting to take control of the whole film- making process.If the film were a viable commercial proposition,he could have financed it through the normal channels from the script alone.

[DGB454]

I have to disagree taranaki. Why would he put on a charade of the daily prayer and confessions? Gibson already holds enough clout in Hollywood to direct any movie he wanted with the studio backing him. Why pay out of his own pocket? If the film were a viable commercial proposition (which it seems to be)then any studio would have backed him without much hesitation. As far as getting to big for his boots; it seems he wasn't too big for them in this instance. The movie appears to be a hit.

[Parmenides3]

Taranaki, I appreciate your disagreement, especially because the things I have asserted above need to be supported with evidence. But part of your objection is evidence to which I point: it was not deemed a solid commercial prospect. My argument is that his motivation is therefore less likely to be money, and more likely to be faith. I agree that he probably would have made the movie with financial support from Hollywood, if such were available. If a director wants to make a movie whether he has good economic prospects or not, something deeper is moving him. Perhaps something as straightforward as wanting to make a good movie (as with George Lucas, when he was young and hungry).

And if control were the central issue, he could have bought and controlled any other script he liked. There is no shortage of scripts, even religious scripts. This script, apparently, seemed to Gibson like something that should be on the screen.

Like Orson Welles before him, Gibson has risked his career to make a movie which Hollywood finds distasteful. And like Welles, Gibson has proved to have the greater vision, and has won his wager. Hypothetically, if someone is motivated by faith or any other intensely personal vision, wouldn't it seem natural for them to want to be the primary agent in bringing that vision to the screen? Power, or control, is just a medium. It seems to me that the only powerful people who do something constructive with their power are those motivated by love. (Neither of us, I think, are would include those who make donations for tax reasons alone.) Kudos to the response that beat mine, and again for saying it in fewer words. Parmenides3

[asaenz]

Originally Posted by taranaki

This has posibly been the most hyped film of the year.At the end of the day,it's just another actor throwing his money away for the chance to be director.'Playing God' is a phrase that comes to mind for this fanciful piece of pseudo-intellectual snuff movie.

Uhhh didn't the year just start? hee hee

It is a little early to be calling it the most hyped film of the year.

[crapmaster4000]

Has anybody else seen the movie? Ive heard one person has so far and thats good, but waht about anybody else. Ive heard that a person died in the theaters but that dosent mean it was because of the movie. It could have been because of a coiencidence? Now why do people get mad at someone making this kind of movie and saying it could have been used for better reasons when movies like, "eurotrip" arent even mentioned as a waiste of money? Alot of questions come to mind when talking about this movie and it would be nice to see some others come up and some answered.