2000 civic coupe dx auto, ran 18.1 @75mph

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by dampachi

I don't mean to come off sounding like a dick disrespecting your car or anything..but if you're trying to build a racecar...that things a lost hope. I'm serious when I say just buy something else..you can get yourself a nice little EK for a couple Gs and work with that. but yeah, I think it's kind of dumb to 'soup' your car up just to be runnin' with SUVs.

Well, no offense, you came off as an ass. This isn't the first thread where you have taken to bashing someone car, a d-series, or a car "pushing 125HP." To quote you from another thread, you said "You see, it's sad when you 'trick your ride out' and you're pushin' 125hp at the wheels..ya' know? It should be some sort of crime." First off, me more respectful of others and don't just mouth off and be rude. Neither he, nor the guy in this thread, said they were trying to build a super fast car, a drag car, or a race car. There are different reasons people build, and that effects what they do to it. Take SilverY2KCivic for example, his car isn't built for drag racing. It's by no means the fasted civic on here speed and straight line wise. But go against it at an autocross course. That car is built to handle. So what if he's "pushing 125HP." That car is not sad buy ANY means. It handles very well. It was never ment to go in a straight line fast. It was ment to handle well, so it could take an autocross course fast. A Civic with more power built for a drag strip might have more power, but it would be no means take his car in autocross or "through the twisties." Secondly, in regards to this thread, if you had read the whole thread, you'd realize he has a 2000 civic....an EK...so why suggest he "just buy something else and get yourself a nice little EK..."...he has an EK. Second, he's not trying to "soup it to run with SUV's." You say you're not trying to be a dick, but all comments like that do is show you're being one, whether you were trying to or not becomes irrelivant. There are many ways he can build that car, without "selling it for a new one." Are you even familiar with Hondas at all? Or do you only know what your friends tell you and what you read. First, he could swap in a manual tranny. If he wants to stay AT, he can send it to level10 and have them bulletproof it, optimize the shift points for power versus economy, etc. He can re-sleeve and build the motor, then boost it. OR do that and thrown in high C/R pistons and go NA. He can swap in a B-series, use that as a base platform and do the same listed above. It really doesn't matter. The point is, he would have KEPT HIS CAR, and would be MUCH FASTER. That would be, as you put it so eloquently, "kind of dumb to 'soup' your car up just to be runnin' with SUVs." The point is, the thing has not lost hope. It's a 2000 Civic, not a 350Z running like that. Before you go insulting people and being rude, try and know what your saying first. Otherwise you just come off sounding rude, or as you put it in your own words..."as a dick."

[slowasscivic]

yeah, what he said! go my-suv-smoker

[dampachi]

Yeah, first of all I said EK...I didn't mean that I actually meant EG...but oh well. Secondly yes I hate the D-series. I have a terrible grudge against D-series engines because I own an '02 civic sedan and if I can recall it has a D17A? Yeah. and that engine has done nothing but be a problem. Now I said the whole racecar thing because well...he's posting his drag times...so going fast in a straight is obviously something he wants to do. and when I was making my 'pushin' 125hp' comment I in no way was directing that to that guy. it just so happend his cars HP and the HP number I had in mind were the same...now what i was thinking about when I was saying that was a certain car magazine had in their power pages a 1994 integra LS and after putting in about $3,000 on the engine....they were making a good 125hp and so anyway back to what I said...if you'd read the line "IF you're trying to build a racecar...that's lost hope" so yeah.

[SilverY2KCivic]

Originally Posted by dampachi

if you'd read the line "IF you're trying to build a racecar...that's lost hope" so yeah.

Oh really? Ever heard of Bisimoto (Bisi E.) D15 (not 16, or 17, but D15) ALL motor, power numbers were never really published by him or his team, but it's the fastest ALL MOTOR D-series on the planet, under 11 second ¼ mile times before he retired the motor in trade for a SOHC F22 motor. I don't see the lost hope for people that try it... If he can do, certainly so can anyone else. Don't hate just because your D17 owns you right now. Things can be done to make it quicker and better. Read up and research before you go dissing and raggin' on it or anyone elses of equal.

Originally Posted by dampachi

first of all I said EK...I didn't mean that I actually meant EG...but oh well.

This first sentance just makes absolutely NO sense. I wish people could be forbidden to make comments until they make some actual sense.

And for the record, I plan on getting some ¼ times eventually here. Because I want to go fast? No, I just think it would be cool to have slips no matter the time on them just so I can say I have some. I already know my car is fast where it needs to be, and can guarantee it'll leave many others in the dust, all in it's 115 or so HP glory.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by dampachi

Yeah, first of all I said EK...I didn't mean that I actually meant EG...but oh well. Secondly yes I hate the D-series. I have a terrible grudge against D-series engines because I own an '02 civic sedan and if I can recall it has a D17A? Yeah. and that engine has done nothing but be a problem. Now I said the whole racecar thing because well...he's posting his drag times...so going fast in a straight is obviously something he wants to do. and when I was making my 'pushin' 125hp' comment I in no way was directing that to that guy. it just so happend his cars HP and the HP number I had in mind were the same...now what i was thinking about when I was saying that was a certain car magazine had in their power pages a 1994 integra LS and after putting in about $3,000 on the engine....they were making a good 125hp and so anyway back to what I said...if you'd read the line "IF you're trying to build a racecar...that's lost hope" so yeah.

If you knew anything about the B18B1 (called the LS), you'd know that power output number is what it SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAKING AT THE WHEELS STOCK!!!! That motor they used (it was Import Tuner you are thinking of) was old and tired. A B18B1 should have a stock at the wheels power output of about 124-127hp and 117ft/lbs of torque. This is a crank number of 142hp and 127 ft-lbs of torque. For $3,000, that B18B1 should have been making a HELL of a lot more than 125 after spending $3,000. Obviously, that motor was having issues. You can't use that as a comparison for all Honda's. I have an LS. I am WELL AWARE of what they can do and are supposed to do, output wise. Also, some people post drag times for fun, not to "race." Read SilverY2KCivic's post. Also, maybe the guy just noticed "hey, my car don't seem to have the speed I think it should, baed on my times." Not trying to race, it, maybe he does it for fun, and noticed that. Don't come in here flaming and being an ass when you don't have a clue what your saying. You statement and comments on the LS prove that. I quote..

Originally Posted by dampachi

it just so happend his cars HP and the HP number I had in mind were the same...now what i was thinking about when I was saying that was a certain car magazine had in their power pages a 1994 integra LS and after putting in about $3,000 on the engine....they were making a good 125hp and so anyway back to what I said...

If you really knew what you were saying, really new motors, like I said, you would have know straight from the dyno numbers baseline, that LS had major issues. It was old and tired. A stock LS in good condtion should have baselined at the numbers that one dfid after all that money. Also, don't go hating on the D-series because YOURS SUCKS. If we have a Civic, unless we have a Del Sol Vtec or a 99-00SI, we all stated with a D motor. Just because your motor blows and you don't want to build it doesn't mean it can't be done. As SilverY2KCivic pointed out, Ever heard of Bisimoto (Bisi E.). To close all this I'll say, in regards to your, I ment to say EG, not EK comment. It doesn't matter what you MEANT TO SAY when your trying to be an ass, it matters what you said. So try and lighten up and show some respect. The way your acting is a quick route to receiving none.

[GScivic7]

Originally Posted by dampachi

Yeah, first of all I said EK...I didn't mean that I actually meant EG...

I don't know about you, but I would think that it would be a little more expensive to import a JDM civic than to build his D-series motor to an extent that is.

[dampachi]

I got owned.

[SilverY2KCivic]

Originally Posted by dampachi

I got owned.

Pretty much, and with that this thread is now closed. Nothing further to discuss short of this thread turning into a piss fight.

Ryan, just get more seat time at the track, and practice your launch technique and reaction time. I dunno what else to really say, just keep trying man.