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Old 12-06-2003, 02:08 AM   #1
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GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

I beat my friend on a 10 MPH rolling start until about 80. He still thinks he won and it was "unfair" because he claims I launched before him. On a second run, I was behind until 70 MPH (I'll explain) and by the time I put it into third, I was puilling on him like hell, but he still claims he won that race too because I slowed down after I passed him...it was fuckin obvious who won

Now, the reason I was behind him until 70 MPH was because I have bad axles and I did a shitty launch on purpose trying to preserve my axles. And I have crappy tires, crappier than stock. And I was carrying a 140 LBs passenger. So, with good stock axles, normal tires, and no passenger...a GSR can kill an automatic SE-R.

After he starting braggin that he beat me, I challenged him to another race, where I would launch like a mad-mad and smoke the living shit out of him...but he did'nt wanna race...wuss.

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Old 12-06-2003, 04:45 AM   #2
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lol i didnt know they make automatic ser's and i dont know if youd be able to beat him that bad there pretty quick cars im assuming you mean the new ones.
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My friend had a 2001 SE-R auto.
For an automatic it pulled pretty good.
But I still dont know why you would want one in AUTO.
It was a nice car, until he rolled over 3 times in it going around a curve at 125 mph racing an Maxima.
Hes OK though so thats good.
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Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

a GSR can be an automatic SER!! NO FUKING WAY!
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Old 12-06-2003, 06:53 PM   #5
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Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

are you talking b13, b14, b15 or the spec v?
either way all auto se-rs are fairly slow.
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Re: Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

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are you talking b13, b14, b15 or the spec v?
either way all auto se-rs are fairly slow.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but they never made B13, or B14 SE-R's with autos. Also, all SpecVs are six-speeds.

That only leaves the B15 SE-R, non-Spec.
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Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

They make auto SE-Rs but but not SPEC-V, those are 6-speed and I think they come with an LSD. The one I beat had 170 HP, 175 tq and it was auto. He baught an auto because he hardly knows how to drive stick...and the car cost $7,800.

It was a B15, the newest body.
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Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

Thats the one with 165hp 175tq. 2002 and 2003

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the new se-r's are only like 170 hp, so i wouldnt think itd stand a chance against a gsr right? especially if its an auto, but it has a lot more torque so thats why u guys say its tough to beat? also i read that the se-r loses way more from flywheel to wheel than an average car
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I raced a spec v at a 10MPH rolling start and it was pretty close. I beat him by like half a car length, but he had a bad shift into second, so if all went well i think we would have been dead even. BTW we raced until about 100MPH
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Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

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the new se-r's are only like 170 hp, so i wouldnt think itd stand a chance against a gsr right? especially if its an auto, but it has a lot more torque so thats why u guys say its tough to beat? also i read that the se-r loses way more from flywheel to wheel than an average car
i don't see ur arguement?

the gsr comes w/ only 170hp and a lot less torque, therefore it IS a close race. the auto tranny simply gave the gsr the extra advantage that he needed.

and ur numbers are off. dumped91hatch had the correct numbers for the model that he raced against. it would have been a 4 speed electronically controlled auto transmission w/ those power numbers and it weighs in around 100 lbs more than the gsr.

once again, it SHOULD be a good race (much better tho w/ a 5 sp in the se-r.)
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Re: Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

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i don't see ur arguement?


once again, it SHOULD be a good race (much better tho w/ a 5 sp in the se-r.)
Good point, but I still smoked him with a 140 LBS passenger.

He ran a best time of 16.1 at the track (altitude corrected).
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my angle was that the se-r is an auto, and that they lose more power from the flywheel to wheel than other cars. ive read that the new se-r's were a big disappointment
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Re: Re: Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but they never made B13, or B14 SE-R's with autos. Also, all SpecVs are six-speeds.

That only leaves the B15 SE-R, non-Spec.
no, they made autos in every year the sr20de was offered (nx2000, g20 and se-r)
i've been in a specv and didn't like it at all, it pulled nice in the low rpms (but it's a 2.5!) but didn't feel as strong as my na'd sr20 did. but that was a lighter car with lsd.
according to some VERY intelligent nissan gurus that have gotten a good look at the internals, the qr25de engine is pure shit
and i love nissan.....
i'd take the sr20de over the qr25de any day
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Re: Re: Re: Re: GSR owners: Automatic SE-Rs are slow.

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no, they made autos in every year the sr20de was offered (nx2000, g20 and se-r)
Yes, but the NX and the G20 aren't SE-R's, and that's what we're talking about.

I'm positive that the B13 SE-Rs never had automatics, but I am not too sure about B14 200SX SE-Rs, though, although I'd swear they never made those in auto, either.
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