Turbo Charging a '91 Dodge Shadow using an '84 Daytona Turbo

[PhoenixX]

Ok, let me correct myself. Please bare in mind I'm a newbie at automechanics and turbos. A good friend of mine is a car
buff but isnt really an experienced mechanic. He took a look at
it and told me it was an intercooler.

However after further inspection, and Reading about turbos/trannys,
My judgements say it's probably just a second radiator for the
transmission, to keep it cool, since its a turbocharged car.

I've uploaded a picture here:

http://www.cellshark.com/daytonaradiator.gif

both hoses on the small "radiator" up front lead to the transmission.
So in short this could just be a regular TI setup.

Also:


You wrote:
I've done some research on your engine and feel that all you need to do is swap out the connecting rods and pistons and then do the Turbo II conversion.


So let me get this straight. Send the daytona to the boneyard, but
first take out the connecting rods, pistons, turbo, convert the turbo to
a TII and put it in my shadow?

heh, this parts confused me a bit, can you elaborate a little
also if you have any links or know of a tutorial that will show me
how to do the proposing "operation" that'd be helpful too. If not, I'd at least like to understand. Remember I'm a newbie, so lamen terms would help.

thx again for all your input!!!!

[Polygon]

Yeah, that's a transmission cooler, and that is definitely a Turbo I engine.

When I said to replace the connecting rods and pistons I meant with some good after market ones or a good set from a Turbo II engine 89 and up. I wouldn't use any of the engine parts from the Daytona. I guess I should really ask how much power do you want to run? This will give me the best idea of what internals you should get. As for the Turbo, that is your call. The turbo on your Daytona is a Garrett T03. It is the same turbo as on the Turbo II cars. So it is your call based on the condition of the turbo if you want to use it or not.

As for rebuilding the engine, the Dodge Garage has a great tutorial, or you can grab a Chiltons manual at a local parts store that will have a good guide for that as well.

[PhoenixX]

I'd like to be running at least 150hp in the shadow, and more if possible.
To be clear, we're talking about turbocharging the shadow right?

I suppose I could find some good pistons & connectings rods, but I'd like
to use the Turbo in the daytona. If it doesnt look too bad, maybe ill have it glass bead blasted to remove grime or rust. Then convert it to a TII spec. I've seen that tutorial at the Dodge Garage.

I suppose I'd need a 2.5L turbo Manifold, and a 1pc. Intake Manifold?
In any event, I'm not sure what parts to get besides the rods and pistons.

I've also never taken apart an engine. My experience with them goes
as far as installing a starter, or changing spark plugs / distributor cap.

Is there a tutorial out there that explains the dirty work? What to take off, when, and if i need to flush out the oil or so first?

Thx again!

[Polygon]

To be clear, yes, I'm talking about turbo-charging the Shadow.

If you only want to run around 150HP then I would simply pick up some stock Turbo II rods and pistons. They can handle around 400HP. As for the turbo, I would have it checked out having over 100,000 miles on it, but like I said it is the same turbo that is used on the Turbo II aside from some minor differences. To get the turbo from the Daytona to the Turbo II spec just do the following instruction.

Turbo I Garrett T03 - Turbo II Garrett T03 conversion.

You're also going to want to get a Turbo II head and head gasket. While your head has the same casting number the valve springs are weaker and the exhaust valves are weaker as well and will fail within months of being turbo-charged. So getting a Turbo II head will work out better. They are also cross-drilled for better cooling which is why you will need the Turbo II head gasket as well. Then just follow the Turbo II conversion instructions on Gary's site which can be found here.

Also, ask around the Turbo Dodge forums. I know there are plenty of people that have done the Turbo II conversion and they can be loads of help. I for one haven't done the conversion. My 89 GTC came as a Turbo II stock and the 90 GTC is a Turbo IV.

As far as doing any engine work is concerned the Chilton’s manuals are very detailed and have many pictures to help you along all the way down to an engine rebuild. They are a good idea if you plan to do any work on your car yourself. You can find them at any parts store. As for online tutorials, I don't really know of any but I am sure a quick Google search will turn something up.

[PhoenixX]

Ok Great! I'll grab a chilton's manual and continue my research.
Just to be on the safe side I'm listing the things I should be
looking for.

I'll Need

• Turbo II
• Turbo II Head
• Turbo II Head Gasket
• 2.5L Chrystler Turbo Manifold
• 2.5L Intake Manifold
• Turbo II Stock Pistons
• Turbo II Stock Connecting Rods
• Intercooler
• '89-'91 Turbo II Wiring Harness

If I left anything out, or put something on there I don't need, please let me know. If this is all, I'll acquire the parts and begin!

[quickcar]

one thing came to my is where is the intercooler mentioned...
someone may have installed the direct connection over the manifold intercooler kit.??

do you have any pics of the 84???

rick

[Polygon]

Shoot, I just realized I gave you a little bum information. You can't use the stock Turbo II pistons. You need to use the Turbo I pistons.