The King for under $40,000

[blueboost]

Z06 for sure.

heres why IMO

style- Z's are HOT. I love the EVO but the body styling RUINS the car for me. why couldn't they have left it alone and kept it wide and mean looking like the gen. before it!!!

performance- they all have it. EVO and Z are highly tunable amazing performance machines. This is a very difficult comparison, 2 cars that achieve similar performance with radically different approaches. IMO it may be cheaper in the long run as far as repair/maintenance with a Z over the EVO. I believe if both were modded, the EVO would be a bit higher in $$$ to maintain. The Z theoretically would be easier to live with in a mildly tuned form.

The M3, as nice as it is, just can't compare to its competitors in this situation. although much nicer looking in appearance, it would be my 3rd choice as the EVO's tunability is skylinelike

[flylwsi]

have you seen an evo in person?
they ARE wide...
FYI:
the evo 8 is really an evo 7.5, b/c there weren't many changes to the car.
if you've seen them side by side, and even earlier gens, they're just as wide.

the evo's tunability is skylinelike...
so is the zo6, and any other car, really...
and of the 3 cars, the one with the biggest aftermarket support is the one you picked, the zo6..

[blueboost]

Originally Posted by flylwsi

have you seen an evo in person?
they ARE wide...
FYI:
the evo 8 is really an evo 7.5, b/c there weren't many changes to the car.
if you've seen them side by side, and even earlier gens, they're just as wide.

the evo's tunability is skylinelike...
so is the zo6, and any other car, really...
and of the 3 cars, the one with the biggest aftermarket support is the one you picked, the zo6..

yes Ive seen an evo in person. I mean they should have kept it like THIS

the evo's tunability is skylinelike...

yeah... thats exactly what I said.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by flylwsi

FYI:
the evo 8 is really an evo 7.5, b/c there weren't many changes to the car.

No, the EVO 8, is an EVO 8.
For every EVO generation the odd numbered model is the new car, built on a new platform of either the Lancer, or Cedia. The Even numbered model is then the face lift, done with small minnor improvments at the same time the Lancer/Cedia its based off is also face lifted.
A .5 is only added to the name if the even numbered model is aslo given a face lift, or in someway changed, in this case this only happened to the EVO 5, which was face lifted to the EVO 6, which was then given small performance enhancing mods and sold in some markets as the EVO 6.5 and in others as the Tommi Makinen edition, and in some as both.

However, since this thread seems to purly about cars avliable in the US, at US prices (only the EVO is avliable here for that sort of money, the other two would cost a hell of a lot more) then you are talking about the US spec EVO 8. Which is quite differnce to the one sold to the rest of the world, it appears to more of an EVO 5 or 6, in a modfieded EVO 8 body. A true EVO 8 would run rings around in terms of performance, just like it will run rings around an older EVO 5 or 6.

[Mr Payne]

Originally Posted by 3000ways

Well the votes have been cast, and it came down to three. One from an American manufactuer, one from a Japanese manufactuer, and one from an European manufactuer. So now who is really the King for under $40,000.

Your broke and you barely make ends meet, but one day luck is on your side. You check your lotto ticket and guess what you just won $40,000. So you always had dreams of owning a fast car, and you decide f*ck it I’m getting me a fast car. So you make a list of cars categorizing them into three seperate lists of European, Japanese, and American. You rate each car with in the lists on-

Stock Power
Tuning Potential
Price
Styling
All Around Performance
Livability

From your list of European cars, you decide the best choice for you is a 2001 BMW M3. From your list of American cars you decide that the best choice is a 2001 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6. Then from your list of Japanese cars you decide that the best choice for you is the 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR. So between these three cars which is the best, which offers the greatest combination of Stock Power, Tuning Potential, Price, Styling, All Around Performance, and Livability?

2001 BMW M3
3.2L 6-Cylinder
333HP
262TQ
6-Speed Manual
RWD
3420Lbs
0-60- 4.9 Seconds
$36,300

2001 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6
5.7L 8-Cylinder
385HP
385TQ
6-Speed Manual
RWD
3120Lbs
0-60- 4.5 Seconds
$34,100

2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution MR
2.0L Turbocharged 4-Cylinder
285HP
295TQ
6-Speed Manual
AWD
3080Lbs
0-60- 4.3 Seconds
$33,000

So who is the King?

01 Z06 can be gotten for 30K.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by Mr Payne

01 Z06 can be gotten for 30K.

I'm sure it can, I was just going by blue book. I once saw a 2001 BMW Roadster for sale for only $25,000 and this was almost a couple years ago, the guy really needed to get rid of it, and fast. But I'm quite sure I would have never found another one for that price. Like I said I'm just going by blue book. I'm sure prices can be more or less.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

i heard the evo-8 doesn't come with a boost gauge thats pretty dang stupid. what sense does that make

Just FYI the VR4 does come with a boost gauge stock, but anybody who owns and knows VR4s should know it's one of the most unreliable boost gauges there is. In fact when tuning a VR4 it is highly recommended that you go with an aftermarket boost gauge. And yes the EVO MR does have a boost gauge.

[Mr Payne]

Originally Posted by 3000ways

I'm sure it can, I was just going by blue book. I once saw a 2001 BMW Roadster for sale for only $25,000 and this was almost a couple years ago, the guy really needed to get rid of it, and fast. But I'm quite sure I would have never found another one for that price. Like I said I'm just going by blue book. I'm sure prices can be more or less.

I found 5 Z06s within 200 miles of me for under 32K. I put in around 30 seconds of work to get that info. 01 Z06s are not costing 34K.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by Mr Payne

I found 5 Z06s within 200 miles of me for under 32K. I put in around 30 seconds of work to get that info. 01 Z06s are not costing 34K.

I'm sorry, like I said I'm going by blue book. Like I also said the cars can be had for less or more. Also it all depends on where you live, I found 5 ZO6s that cost over $35,000 (I stopped at 5) within 200 miles of where I live. I put in 30 seconds of work also to get that info-

http://autotrader.com/findacar/resul...=used&x=33&y=1

Cars in certain arears go for more than in other areas, I live in Southern California, cars here are very expensive, the blue book is national value rating system and is appropriate for this comparison.

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by 3000ways

Just FYI the VR4 does come with a boost gauge stock, but anybody who owns and knows VR4s should know it's one of the most unreliable boost gauges there is. In fact when tuning a VR4 it is highly recommended that you go with an aftermarket boost gauge. And yes the EVO MR does have a boost gauge.

why does it seem like your trying to argue with me?

i simply spoke that it doesn't have a boost gauge. yes i know that the vr's is not proper i now have 2 things reading boost.

and i never said the mr didn't have one. i don't think you like me

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

why does it seem like your trying to argue with me?

i simply spoke that it doesn't have a boost gauge. yes i know that the vr's is not proper i now have 2 things reading boost.

and i never said the mr didn't have one. i don't think you like me

My bad, I didn't think you liked me, you did call me a punk now did you? Well it's cool, I have respect for the VR4s, I owned one, very nice car, the best car I've owned so far.

[youngvr4]

its all good man, i was playing when i called you a punk, thats why the smiley faces were there.

[3000ways]

I may have been to hasty with the EVO MR, turns out the car may have more than just 285HP, looks like it may have 300HP or more. Which means it could even be faster than what was first thought, especially when combined with it's lighter weight and 6 speed transmission.

http://www.motorcities.com/contents/04DMF564735743.html

In fact all EVOs in america are getting a bump in HP and TQ, from 271HP/273TQ to 276HP/285TQ and the MR may come with 300HP.

[Joseph1082]

I still think if a Z06 can be had, it is just a superior car.

[youngvr4]

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