Future, Priming, Painting, Tamiya masking tape

[Geez]

OK, so I've expanded my modelling capabilities by buying some Future and Tamiya masking tape. Now, I wanted to try this stuff out before I botched up a good model, so I took an old kit I had built, that had been molded in colour, and I hadn't sprayed. It was also a decal intensive kit. Applied the Future, and it looked pretty good. Let that dry for a week, and tried the masking tape. Well, the tape promptly pulled all the Future off with it. It also pulled the decals off. Now, this is semi acceptable, I suppose, considering there was no paint layer.


Here's the question. If I paint Tamiya TS paints on a plastic body without roughing or priming the body, will this happen again?

If I rough and primer the body, and spray Tamiya TS paints, could this happen again?

[k_dog]

I would imagine this would'nt happen if you primer the surface.

[daggerlee]

Did you wash the plastic body before applying the decals? One theory is that the mold release agents, which are basically just slippery chemicals, prevented the decals and future from having a good ahesion.

From my experience, Tamiya tape is one of the best tapes for modeling, period: low tack, bleeds very little, see-through when applied correctly. I don't think you'd have a problem with a good primer and paint on it.

[freelunch]

Future is delicate. If your not careful polishing the stuff, whole pieces will flake off.

[JDM Evo7]

Future is not a good clear coat, it's too fragile, it's used mostly in military models. On those you use future to apply the decals, then overspray with a flat coat. I like Tamiya clear. It dries very hard, easy to polish, etc. It is a lacquer so you just have to put on several light coats to seal the decals, before you apply the heavy coat.

[djmr2]

Future is Acrylic based, it dries very thin so if your going to use it as a clear coat, be prepared to spray lots of coats. Sometimes when u think you've over done it, you'll be surprised how thin it is when it's dried out.

I've used it and i had absolutely NO problems polishing. Great Shine.

[freelunch]

djmr do you wetsand future? I wetsanded and the future redissolved even after a week of drying

[djmr2]

i usually do wet sand, so i'm pretty sure i might have wet sanded the future. you probably didn't put enough future on..

i did that once and when i reached the color coat it looked like the future was disolving.

try putting atleast 10+ coats on.. meaning u want to spray it on a little thick cuz it dries really thin.

[Mainomega]

Future really is trick and not worth the effort i think. My paint jobs on two current models are awesome, today i sprayed future on them and now as always orange peel develops.

I've spray this stuff a lot and i always stick with it even though i tell myself not to use it anymore.

If you let the future dry atleast 3 weeks it is perfectly good for polishing and sanding. Spraying Future isn't the same as spraying paint. I tend to do very thin coats and build up. The shell ends up very shiny and "hard" but i always develop orange peel. I guess im a cheap bastard because a bottle of future cost $6 and a small tamiya clear costs $2 so i stick with Future everytime.

[djmr2]

Future is basically paint...

don't blame future.. your probably just doing something wrong

orange peel is so easy to get rid of and yet everyone makes a big deal with it... use some sandpaper and smooth it out, then take some polish and voila, u have a shiny model without orange peel

Future is cheap.. thats an attractive thing for an expensive hobby.

[freelunch]

After i wetsanded, the future began to get white and cloudy. Has this happened to anyone else?

[djmr2]

you probably got down to the paint layer and ur seeing the transition from future to paint...

tahts my guess

[freelunch]

Hmm, I left the model after and got cloudy and went back to it a few hours later. The future had apparently dried again and the cloudiness was gone. weird

[ales]

There was a thread not so long ago, and the consensus was that sanding future is both not necessary and not recommended.