2k2 civic - engine bay problems?

[blackCIVIC2k2]

Hey all. First time poster here. I own a 2002 honda civic ex. I used to own a 94 civic ex, but then crashed it...so I got a new one. Anyhoo...I've noticed that the engine bay is considerably smaller. What kind of problems do you think this will create if I were to consider an engine swap? Or even a turbocharger? I haven't been able to find any turbocharger or supercharger for my car and I'm assuming it's because of the size of the engine bay. I've also noticed that while the displacement was increased in this generation of sohc vtec motors (1.7 instead of 1.6), the horsepower wasn't really changed...maybe 3 hp? Just something I noticed. And what's with the aftermarket intakes going straight vertical from the engine for like 4 inches and then curving downward? There's got to be a better design than that...but I could be wrong.
Also, a question to anyone out there with a fair amount of tech knowledge. Why did honda increase the displacement of the si motor to 2.0 liters, while leaving the horsepower the same? I know it increased the torque, but it left the horsepower at 160. Honda obviously has the technology to increase the horsepower, but why didn't they? Understood technology is expensive, but this is the si we're talking about here. It's already considered to be the BEST (in the u.s.) civic. I have a theory that it was so the car would have larger aftermaket potential. By increasing the displacement, after market parts would do quite a bit more for the car than previously. That's just my take on it, I could be wrong.
Well thanks in advance for any help anyone provides.

[delsolsi]

Originally posted by blackCIVIC2k2

Also, a question to anyone out there with a fair amount of tech knowledge. Why did honda increase the displacement of the si motor to 2.0 liters, while leaving the horsepower the same? I know it increased the torque, but it left the horsepower at 160. Honda obviously has the technology to increase the horsepower, but why didn't they? Understood technology is expensive, but this is the si we're talking about here. It's already considered to be the BEST (in the u.s.) civic. I have a theory that it was so the car would have larger aftermaket potential. By increasing the displacement, after market parts would do quite a bit more for the car than previously. That's just my take on it, I could be wrong.

They did it so that people will buy the more expensive RSX Type S. The Si uses the same engine as in the base RSX, which is not made for the performance normally associated with Si's. A friend of mine's little brother works for a local Honda dealership and he said that Si sales are bombing. In the latest issue of Sport Compact Car the have an Si with an RSX type S engine swapped in, a home made type R.

On a side note does any one else get lots of server busy errors when trying to access this site?

[blackCIVIC2k2]

I am on a cable modem and this site loads INCREDIBLY slow in comparison with any other site I go to.

I can see why the civic si's sales would bomb, it looks like an easter egg! It's also priced WAY too high for the people who would consider buying it. People buy civic's because they're cheap performance with the possibility of future upgrades to increase performance.

I was also wondering, my engine is a sohc vtec. That means it's a D series motor, right? So would a B series motor swap require custom motor mounts? I was thinking of completely ignoring all engine modifications until I had the money to just do a swap. If I can't get the motor I want, I'll have to replan what I'm going to do...

[wagsaccordsir]

Isnt it a D17 in the 2002 Civic? If it is, then if I'm not mistaken the only engine that will swap is the K20. My boy had a 2002 was gonna do the swap, but he ended up trading it for that damn easter egg. Anyways, I think that is what I remember about his swap.

[blackCIVIC2k2]

k20 eh? I can live with that...but it's probably expensive as all hell, seeing as how it's new and all. All this engine swap and modification stuff is driving me nuts... I'm beginning to think that I should just buy a damn prelude, they're faster and they look better. (In my opinion) Kind of makes me wonder why that isn't the popular route. Probably so people can have "sleepers".

[wagsaccordsir]

I took the Prelude engine and put it into my Accord... See Accord forum titled.. 97 Accord with H22 swap... Oh yea shes a beast now...

[blackCIVIC2k2]

Are the pictures in your signature the pictures of this accord with the prelude engine in it? By the looks of it, it's no sleeper...but I'm sure it's fast. The exterior accesories are a dead giveaway that the car has modifications done to it. I'd have to wait for some extra money to burn if I wanted to create a sleeper, but for now I just want to go fast. That's why the prelude is looking more and more attractive to me. I just don't think I'd be able to afford swapping the engine in my civic. Tires and rims however, that I must get...I'm sick of hearing "screeeeech" around turns. P185's just don't cut it anymore.

[wagsaccordsir]

Yep thats my baby! Or should I say my beast? hehe.. If you do a swap you won't regret it..

[02SilverSiHB]

Originally posted by blackCIVIC2k2
Hey all. First time poster here. I own a 2002 honda civic ex. I used to own a 94 civic ex, but then crashed it...so I got a new one. Anyhoo...I've noticed that the engine bay is considerably smaller. What kind of problems do you think this will create if I were to consider an engine swap? Or even a turbocharger? I haven't been able to find any turbocharger or supercharger for my car and I'm assuming it's because of the size of the engine bay. I've also noticed that while the displacement was increased in this generation of sohc vtec motors (1.7 instead of 1.6), the horsepower wasn't really changed...maybe 3 hp? Just something I noticed. And what's with the aftermarket intakes going straight vertical from the engine for like 4 inches and then curving downward? There's got to be a better design than that...but I could be wrong.
Also, a question to anyone out there with a fair amount of tech knowledge. Why did honda increase the displacement of the si motor to 2.0 liters, while leaving the horsepower the same? I know it increased the torque, but it left the horsepower at 160. Honda obviously has the technology to increase the horsepower, but why didn't they? Understood technology is expensive, but this is the si we're talking about here. It's already considered to be the BEST (in the u.s.) civic. I have a theory that it was so the car would have larger aftermaket potential. By increasing the displacement, after market parts would do quite a bit more for the car than previously. That's just my take on it, I could be wrong.
Well thanks in advance for any help anyone provides.

people have already done engine swaps with your car....like a RSX Type S engine swap....what a sleeper!

Anyway, as for turbos and superchargers....shouldn't be a problem since they made them for the Si that I have.
Our engine bays are pretty small, but that will never stop us