Kill storie...Supra

[JDMEddie]

This is my first non-honda race. I just meet this kid at Erie Blvd.(our racing spot) He owns a 3.0 Supra N/A older with 43,000miles...We are on our way home and we finnaly get a light next to eachother. He points at the light, I point, and wait for the other side to turn yellow. Green, yellow, Red...Our light turns green I launch @ 5000RPM(no wheel spin), my best launch ever. I have him by half a car from go - 60mph.

his mods

-apex'I N1
- air intake

my mods

-eibach Spring & tokico shocks

Wow I am so proud of myself.:frog:

[TatII]

5000 wow thats kinda high man. the most i think the launch rpm should be should be 3500rpm. if you launch at 5000. your goin to peel all through first gear cause there would be no first gear left by the time you finally got traction.

[NISSANSPDR]

Yeah 5k w/no power mods is still high for RWD car w/torque...but I guess it's possible...but highly improbable.

[JDMEddie]

well you can ask my brother AIM = F1L1P1n0 fr3sh72...If you feather off the clutch you will get no wheel spin. You cant even beat hondas tat so stfu you know nothing!!! anyway I did it!!! and like i said I am damn proud of my car...the supra wanted revenge sooooooo bad. Tat learn to launch feather off the clutch to the point you are breaking your car, you will understand!

if you dont bealive me fine

[S14g!rl]

I was in his passenger seat when he raced. Dude he had him by almost a car length. Your just jealous because you can't even beat hondas. So don't hate, congratulate.

[TatII]

alright if thats how your suppose to launch 240's i guess i'll give it a shot. but no need for the cursing. its just that 5000rpm launch sounds like it kills alot of clutch esp when feathering it. but i'll give it a shot if it gives me even more of a gain. but trust me. my friends in honda's can drive. if my friends drag you they can probrably beat you too (just assumption here) cause i can beat other cars. even faster ones. its just that they're just that much of a better driver then me. and you say supra 3.0 older model? sooo i'm assuming that was a mark III. those aren't that fast witht hose kinds of mods. and since its n/a it should be around the speed of our cars. i dunno. maybe i'm the one who don't know what i'm talkin about.

[TatII]

and another thing. the S14's are maad slow stock. according the magazines they do 0-60 anywhere from 8.2 to 7.7 seconds. and the quarter mile in the low 16's. those honda's that i race with good drivers can get better times. but only marginally. i raced them then i was stock and when they had some power mods. now i race them with my mods. they still got more mods then me cusae htey progress as i progress. its just that i'm alittle behind. if you look at the streetracing forums. i have beaten another LS that weights around 100lbs less csaue its only a 2 door and dont' have a sound system. and he has better mods then myf riend. how did come i beat him by atleast a car? when my other friends can beat me by 1 and a half in a slower car? its all a drivers race man. oooo shit i just realized. thats exactly what you were referring to me in the begining. that i'm not that good. lolz well i guess what/ the honda drivers in your area probrably can't drive either. cuase my 2 friends that constantly makes fools out of me takes maxima's even the 02 ones in a drag. but theyr'e auto though. and they rap v6 stangs. and accord v6's. sooo does that make my car slow? becasue of those to them?

[iDavidx516]

well i been readin the post in here and i'm a real friend of Tatii. What Tat has been saying about the hondas are true. i have a friend that drives an integ LS and he beats tat in a drag. if u dont believe me, and u live in the new york area.. we can always set up a drag. So if u wanna drag just talk to tat and he'll probably set something up.

[TatII]

i have went out and tried your methond jdmeddie. your method does work. it has only a small hint of chirp and it just takes off. the thing is. like i suspected from before. okay i didn't peel but now i'm near red line and i ahve to shift almost immediately after launch. now the method that i normally us. it allows me to use most of first gear. i don't see the point of not being able to use first gear. but i do admit. its not as bad as i thought it would be. but i don't think its any faster.

[TatII]

i was askin my classmates about your method. and he use to drive a turbo mark III supra. and he said that he use to do the same thing. he would launch it at 4K but ride the clutch until it gets full bit then he floors it. but another note he said is that it kills sooo much clutch that its not really worth it. hmmmmmmmm well i guess i'll keep on experimenting.

[J SPEC SilEighty]

Originally posted by TatII
but another note he said is that it kills sooo much clutch that its not really worth it.

That's so true. I guess the clutch was already worn out a bit when I bought my car. About a week ago I tried slipping the clutch (just another name for what you guys are doing) and it took off pretty good but it seems about the same as when I just launch normally. Anyways when I was slipping the clutch to launch, I started smelling this awful smell and was wondering what it was. I was sitting behind a chrysler minivan at a stoplight and that's when I began to smell it so I just assumed it was the POS chrysler but only to find that smell was the smell of burning clutch.

[TatII]

hahah jspecsil80 you should put a pic of your S14 in your sig too. it would be cool. lolz we'll be like the only two white S14 people in here.

[Karezza666]

MAN I AM SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY YOU CANNOT LAUNCH OR IT IS NOT EFFICIANT TO LAUNCH A 240 AT 5000. SUCH BULLSHIT, THE HELL IF YOU CAN'T. THAT IS HOW I RACE. THIS MUST BE COMMING FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT RACING OR LAUNCHING, THEY PROBABLY SHIFT AT 6300 RPM'S CUZ ANYTHING OVER REDLINE IS BAD FOR YOUR MOTOR. MAN IF YOU DON'T KNOW NISSANS ARE BUILT FOR IT. DID YOU KNOW THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY 240, SILVIA, 300ZX, FAIRLADY, AND SKYLINE TRANNY'S ARE THE SAME. BUILT TO LAST AND CAN HOLD A LITTLE MORE THAN 400HP.

[J SPEC SilEighty]

Originally posted by Karezza666
MAN I AM SICK OF HEARING PEOPLE SAY YOU CANNOT LAUNCH OR IT IS NOT EFFICIANT TO LAUNCH A 240 AT 5000. SUCH BULLSHIT, THE HELL IF YOU CAN'T. THAT IS HOW I RACE. THIS MUST BE COMMING FROM PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT RACING OR LAUNCHING, THEY PROBABLY SHIFT AT 6300 RPM'S CUZ ANYTHING OVER REDLINE IS BAD FOR YOUR MOTOR. MAN IF YOU DON'T KNOW NISSANS ARE BUILT FOR IT. DID YOU KNOW THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY 240, SILVIA, 300ZX, FAIRLADY, AND SKYLINE TRANNY'S ARE THE SAME. BUILT TO LAST AND CAN HOLD A LITTLE MORE THAN 400HP. SO JUST SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT LAUNCHING AT 5000, CUZ YOUR PUSSY ASS DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS!

chill out dude. while were on the subject about people not knowing things, anybody that says "RPM's" must not know anything about cars in general. If you have ever bothered to check out the dyno chart for the KA24DE then you will see that the torque starts dropping off around 4.5K RPM and at about 5k RPM the torque is as low as it is back at 2k RPM so it is pretty much usless to take it past 5.5k RPM or so and you definatley don't need to take it up past 6.3k RPM at all. It doesn't matter if the tranny can handle 400hp or not because the KA24DE isn't made for high revving such as above 6300 like your saying. So while your out shifting your car at 7k RPM or so, us experienced and knowledgeable drivers will shift at the optimum point and get better acceleration and better times than you. Ok?

[TatII]

heres something simple

nissan KA24DE. long stroke motor. equals torque and mid end. equals to major power cut off after 5.5K well when i use to experiment shifting. after 5.5 it just dont' want to rev. our motor was designed for torque. thats why we got that long ass stroke and almost no bore.

however if you compare it to a honda motor. all bore and no stroke. you can rev the shit out of those engine cause the piston has less distance to travel. sooo they can have like 8000 redline. but it sacrifices low end torque. thats why we called them torqueless wonders. if you drive two cars. the honda gets faster times by shifting at redline. when the KA24DE you shift at 5.5 cause you start to lose major power and torque. soo you gotta shift it to get back into the mid range and let the torque to most of the work.

now if you ever looked at the SR20DET block (in person) that thing has allll stroke!!! that thing is as wide as 2 of my KA24DE's!! thats why that shit can rev up to a nice 8000rpm red line.