how much slower is the 5.0 then the camaro LT1

[billclinton]

I was just wondering how much slower is the 1990 mustang 5.0 (5sp) then the 1994 camaro Z28 (6sp). I realy want a mustang 5.0 but I also want to be as fast as my friend in his camaro. I was thinking about doing 3.73gears, Cat less H-pipe (how does that sound?) and maybe upgrade the intake manifold. Will i be as fast as a camaro then?

[billclinton]

Or should i get a catless x-pipe

[FormulaLT1]

I had a 93 5.0 LX and now own a 96 Formula LT1 which is basically the same as your friends car and most 6 speed's have 3.42 Rear already stock and the exhaust is maybe going to give you 15 - 20 Horse , so after having owned both car's and knowing what they are both capable of I think your going to need a few bolt on's to match the LT1 but the good thing about the 5.0 's is they respond very well to bolt on's and they are lighter than a Camaro or Formula

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

I had a 93 5.0 LX and now own a 96 Formula LT1 which is basically the same as your friends car and most 6 speed's have 3.42 Rear already stock and the exhaust is maybe going to give you 15 - 20 Horse , so after having owned both car's and knowing what they are both capable of I think your going to need a few bolt on's to match the LT1 but the good thing about the 5.0 's is they respond very well to bolt on's and they are lighter than a Camaro or Formula

This is a very good reponse like he said most 6-speeds came stock wit 3.42. Your 5-speed prob has 2.73 and stock for stock your prob a full second slower than his car. But like he said your car is 3-400lbs lighter than the 4th Gen F-bodies. 3.73's in the back will help to make up a good amount. A good full exhuast with full length headers and maybe a couple more bolts ons like bigger MAF and underdrive pulleys and you'll be even.

[StangNut86]

5.0 displaces 302 cubic inches, whereas the LT1 is up at 350 as memory serves. they say there's no replacement for displacement, so go figure. GTstang is right tho, with those mods you'll hang with an lt1. go a little farther (cam, intake) and you'll own him =)

[90Stangjc]

Hey what a weird thing. I own a 1990 GT and my friend has a 94 Z28. We've raced, oh yeah. It was back when my car was automatic. He car is still automatic. I have changed mine to a 5 speed now but have not raced him yet. Back when both our cars where automatics he would take me 7-8 cars from a sitstill to 100 mph. BUT...... when we went from 100-130mph we were dead even, neither one of us even inched on each other. I do not know about 6-speeds though. His car being automatic runs a 13.8 @ 99mph, with a Moroso intake, Hooker mufflers, broke out cats, and a shift kit. I will not know what my car runs until march 5th so until then cannot give you et time. Anyway hope that helps.

[GTStang]

Technically a LS-1 is a 346 not a 350 but techincally a 302 is a 4.9L hehe so whateva just funny things that make me laugh.

As far as racing ya friends 94 Chevy auto's have historically been better of the line for the most part due to it's better first gear ratio in thier OD trannies compared to Fords. Also I believe the 4th Gen F-bodies auto cars have a nicer rear gear also. That plus the HP and torque of the LT-1 adds to the horrible whooping you get off the line. So from 100-130mph you have helped to limit those things also I believe 94 LT-1 have some wierd computer fuel shut-off in certain gears at certain MPH not RPM's that cause them to have to goto the next gear or OD sooner than they need to. I maybe wrong on that but I have heard some Chevy guys say something about that.

[fajita23200]

Originally Posted by GTStang

Technically a LS-1 is a 346 not a 350 but techincally a 302 is a 4.9L hehe so whateva just funny things that make me laugh.

As far as racing ya friends 94 Chevy auto's have historically been better of the line for the most part due to it's better first gear ratio in thier OD trannies compared to Fords. Also I believe the 4th Gen F-bodies auto cars have a nicer rear gear also. That plus the HP and torque of the LT-1 adds to the horrible whooping you get off the line. So from 100-130mph you have helped to limit those things also I believe 94 LT-1 have some wierd computer fuel shut-off in certain gears at certain MPH not RPM's that cause them to have to goto the next gear or OD sooner than they need to. I maybe wrong on that but I have heard some Chevy guys say something about that.

The 93-97 Camaros,they're LT1's right???

[GTStang]

yes they were.

[krillind8z]

You are correct 93-97 Camaro Z28, Formula and Trans Ams are LT1s.

90 5.0 against a 94 Z28, well that depends.

Both cars are manual trans, so driver will be a key factor. If your buddy can't drive to save his life, then you will hand it to him everytime. If he can drive then you will have a challenge. Earlier years of the LT1 had some problems like the opti spark on them, they didn't fix that issue till 96-97.

Other than that if you have the standard 3.08s that most 5 speed cars have, with where the torque is on the 5.0 you should be able to jump out on him, possibly scare him and he won't shift correctly (done this one before ).

Key mods to look at when getting a 5.0 are:

Tire - definately go with a drag radial or something because even when you don't get on it, the tail end of the car likes to slide out, plus it will help w/ traction when racing, regular driving, etc. I have a set of Nittos and they have been great so far.

Under drive pulleys - as long as you know you don't have an issue w/ cooling or charging, do them, they are noticable and fairly cheep mod to do.

Exhaust - if the exhaust is stock, look into some shorty headers. They will bolt right up and flow a lot better at the head ports (where the problems are to begin with). Also a cat back and H pipe wil help also.

Tune up - definately replace everything and try to go with a better coil for the car like an MSD blaster or crane fire ball.

Timing - you can advance it to about 14 degrees and that does actually help quite a bit.

Remove the silencer if its there and throw in a drop in K&N filter, CAIs don't do anything over that (pretty much the same thing). Other than that, I would recommend a shifter esp if you plan on racing on the stock T5 so you have a shorter throw, etc.

Also you can check out corral.net and stangnet.com to see what mods people are doing, what times they are getting with their cars, etc.

Hope some of this helps, but honestly LT1s aren't anything to fear, its LS1s you have to look out for.

[HiFlow5 0]

Also you can check out corral.net and stangnet.com to see what mods people are doing, what times they are getting with their cars, etc.

Why does every n00b always plug other Mustang sites? Granted they are massive compaired to this one, and pretty good too. But you can get the same info and knowledge from our great members here as well.

[thunderbird muscle]

Chevys use lower stall speed torque conv. then ford. which is the reason they are so responsive off the line.

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by thunderbird muscle

Chevys use lower stall speed torque conv. then ford. which is the reason they are so responsive off the line.

That makes no sence. A lower stall speed would make it more sluggish off the line, not responsive.

[flex339]

yeah it would grap like about a few milliseconds quicker, but would be lower in the power band making it slower so it's more of a handicap then a help.

[krillind8z]

Maybe cause I was just trying to be helpful. Those sites have helped me out a lot.